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Map Pool:

Poison Holiday - FR/CTF/KOTM
Caer Cadarn - CTF/TERRIES/FR/
Fos - CTF/Captures/STAMP
Desert - CTF/TERR/FR/KOTM/STAMP
Trow - CTF/TERR/FR/KOTM
Acts of Cruelty - FR
Grave Reason to Swim - FR
Creep - Terries/KOTM
Barb Valley Dark - LMOTH/FR/
Barb Valley Light - CTF
Arcane Heaven - FR/CTF/KOTM
Barrens - LMOTH/CTF/FR/TERR/KOTM
Grilling Grounds (Light) - CTF/LMOTH
Lichen - FR/CTF/
Stalk - FR
Divide Light - FR/ASS/KOTM
Divide Dark - ASS
Keep (Dark) - LMOTH
Hver Light - CTF/FR/TERR/KOTM
Hver Dark(leg) - CTF/ASS/FR/TERR/KOTM
Smells - FR
Cracks - FR
Clash - FR
Drowned Empire - KOTM/TERR
Shuffle - FR
Calm - FR/CTF
Venice (Allies) - Terries/FR
Tamaerlin (Light) - LMOTH/FR/TERR/CTF
Mjilaphobia (Light/Dark) - FR/CTF
When the Trow Comes around - CTF/FR
Zodiac Hillbillies (All Meshes but Giant) - KOTM/TERR/Captures
Quixotism (All Meshes) - FR/TERR/KOTM


SD-style picking.

The team who selects the first map will be determined by a 1 game 1 v 1 between the teams. It will be on a "suitably neutral" map as per Dear Cu's orders.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/7uahdrrlcj81x ... c.zip?dl=0
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Grimpack
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I feel like almost every decent grim pack map has been played already. Most the unit sets are trash :cry:
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I'm in a map-making mood. Let's come up with the terrain layout first, then worry about what units to include.
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wwo wrote:I'm in a map-making mood. Let's come up with the terrain layout first, then worry about what units to include.
can you alter acts of insanity

take out gholmeisters and bre unor

and add ghols and wights and a healing unit


would this be good?
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If you just want to change units on a map, find Zak.
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I am working a map that tells a story where Cu'Roi and Murgen along with a small contingent of men escaped the tain, and were ultimately stranded in a turnip farm while they recovered from their most courageous travails.
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Dont listen to these faggots, im in charge of whats good and whats bad
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Did a rustle those jimmies? Linking a TWS round :lol:
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Like i give a shit, i just think youre dumb for throwing stones in a glass house. 6-1, LOL
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we should play this :

http://tain.totalcodex.net/items/show/a ... f-aka-kabe

It's pretty nice map, i remember good games on it
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Father Xmas wrote:we should play this :

http://tain.totalcodex.net/items/show/a ... f-aka-kabe

It's pretty nice map, i remember good games on it
i was going to use this, allies, in de2 for mwc16 :lol: :lol:
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There are some maps there where lights/dark etc isn't written like
Grave Reason to Swim
Arcane Heaven
Shuffle

and some others i think. does this mean both light and dark versions are ok to be picked or what?
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Yeah.
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Under Muirthemne should only allow the Light mesh if it's going to be used. The other meshes have units that no one has and idea how they work.
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Barrens - LMOTH
Why only LMOTH? CTF/FR/TERT & KOTM are all fine here.
Divide Light - FR/ASS
Divide Dark - ASS
These should have the option of Territories & KOTM as well. By far the most exciting game type on this map
Hver Light - CTF
Hver Dark(leg) - CTF/ASS
Flag Rally options as well as Hver(Shadow)
Grilling Grounds - CTF
Light version only. Dark has MG's & Siege has Trebuchets
Barb Valley Dark - LMOTH/FR/
Remove LMOTH. It's the most unbalanced map for that gametype. I don't know how people have been picking that game type on that map for 10+ years. the same side wins 90% of the time.
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Can we get rid of Under Muirtheme [Only light mesh is playable here], Cracks/Clash, Veince (allies) come on now allies is broken in this game.

With the exception of maybe some Arcane Meshes there is literally no strating that needs to be done for any of the map picks. They have all been played hundreds of times and everyone should know the cookie cutter trades. IT'S OK to add more maps especially since the 8 below are by far some of the best in the game.

Add Mjilaphobia (Light/Dark) - FR/CTF http://tain.totalcodex.net/items/show/mjila
Add Beckoning Wilds (All Meshes) - FR/TERT/CTF/KOTM http://tain.totalcodex.net/items/show/b ... g-wilds-te
Add When the Trow Comes around - CTF/FR http://tain.totalcodex.net/items/show/whirlwind
Add In the midst (All Meshes) - CTF/LMOTH http://tain.totalcodex.net/items/show/whirlwind
Add Zodiac Hillbillies (All Meshes but Giant) - KOTM/TERT/Captures http://tain.totalcodex.net/items/show/zodiac
Add Leagues from Somewhere (All Meshes but Dragon) - CTF/KOTM/FR/TERT http://tain.totalcodex.net/items/show/l ... -somewhere
Add Quixotism (All Meshes) - FR/TERT/KOTM http://tain.totalcodex.net/items/show/q ... m-t-e-v1-3
Shattered Earth (All Meshes) - TERT/KOTM/Assasin http://tain.totalcodex.net/items/show/s ... -earth-t-e

With the exception of Beckoning Wilds/Leagues (which should be staples in every tournament now) these are all classic maps that everyone knows.

I'm sure there is some other broken stuff within the current map list, that teams will abuse, but that's the best I can do to help you as of now.

PS: Also someone should put together 1 giant map pack where you can download all the maps in the tournament from one DL. If not it's going to be a mess considering there is a lot of maps and no map links as of now.
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I'll remove Under Muirthemne.

I might add some more maps after this round.

I'll adjust the gametypes on Barrens, Divide Light/Dark & FR on Hver. I'll clarify the GG accordingly.
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Seconding a throwaway tournament plugin idea.
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Quixotism isn't exactly a tourney map. that's wwo's map right?
Asmodian wrote:Can we get rid of Under Muirtheme [Only light mesh is playable here], Cracks/Clash, Veince (allies) come on now allies is broken in this game.

With the exception of maybe some Arcane Meshes there is literally no strating that needs to be done for any of the map picks. They have all been played hundreds of times and everyone should know the cookie cutter trades. IT'S OK to add more maps especially since the 8 below are by far some of the best in the game.

Add Mjilaphobia (Light/Dark) - FR/CTF http://tain.totalcodex.net/items/show/mjila
Add Beckoning Wilds (All Meshes) - FR/TERT/CTF/KOTM http://tain.totalcodex.net/items/show/b ... g-wilds-te
Add When the Trow Comes around - CTF/FR http://tain.totalcodex.net/items/show/whirlwind
Add In the midst (All Meshes) - CTF/LMOTH http://tain.totalcodex.net/items/show/whirlwind
Add Zodiac Hillbillies (All Meshes but Giant) - KOTM/TERT/Captures http://tain.totalcodex.net/items/show/zodiac
Add Leagues from Somewhere (All Meshes but Dragon) - CTF/KOTM/FR/TERT http://tain.totalcodex.net/items/show/l ... -somewhere
Add Quixotism (All Meshes) - FR/TERT/KOTM http://tain.totalcodex.net/items/show/q ... m-t-e-v1-3
Shattered Earth (All Meshes) - TERT/KOTM/Assasin http://tain.totalcodex.net/items/show/s ... -earth-t-e

With the exception of Beckoning Wilds/Leagues (which should be staples in every tournament now) these are all classic maps that everyone knows.

I'm sure there is some other broken stuff within the current map list, that teams will abuse, but that's the best I can do to help you as of now.

PS: Also someone should put together 1 giant map pack where you can download all the maps in the tournament from one DL. If not it's going to be a mess considering there is a lot of maps and no map links as of now.
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Not Wwo's map. It's the map that has 2 forts on each side.
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add the maps I listed?
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i have practically never capped any of those and some of those maps have like 5 meshes with many gametypes also listed. i won't have time to even check most of those so do not add all them to the list. if you add a few and tell it well in advance then maybe i'd have time to check a few out. no one will have an especially enjoyable experience if the cap has no idea about the map before capping
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You've played all those other than Beckoning Wilds & Leagues :?
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I put them on. From what the community has been telling me, they have been tested and true.

With that said, I would be willing to look over the maps with you tirri any time, any day. Just let me know.
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me playing a map once or twice during 5 or so years doesn't really leave a memory trace whatsoever. if i'm to cap a map efficiently i'd need to check all those meshes individually, not to mention checking out flag placements and shit for all the possible game types.
i'm not willing to do that with a few days notice for several combinations because i just don't have time, maybe 2-3 maps max. but feel free to pick any of those completely unfamiliar maps for easy wins against me then
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I remember when my favorite mall had 3 bookstores, 2 music stores (cassettes and vinyl), and a software store.

Myth is like a mall with Sears as the only anchor store and a 15% occupancy.

Now Asmo wants to put in a Red Robin and declare it "fine dining" because the only other food place is a Sbarro.

I got news for you, pal. Most of us aren't that hungry to begin with.
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Decided to compromise by adding 4 this week, and 3 next.

Shattered Earth has its fair share of really bad pathfinding bugs, so that won't be put in.
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Thank fucking god... Shattered Earth is the worst map in existence. It literally hurts my eyes to play it.
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lets add



PG 4t Allies (NO TROW)

PG Allies





????
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Lets not, allies is a joke on this game.
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PG 4 team allies? are you fucking serious? let's see how good of a suggestion that seems when 3 teams start on one side of the map and one of those teams gets the dick in both holes without lube.
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