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Crystal Ball Team TA's
Posted: 06 Oct 2013, 01:01
by Ratking
Team Ratking
Ratking
Sam
Dantski
Captain
Palladice
Wwo
Father Xmas
Codex
Let me say that I got the exact players that I wanted. Very suprising to me, usually I may get one or two. I think this will depend on the team and myself coming up with a good plan and being prepared before the matches. The only question mark for showing up is wwo, and I believe he will. I think we pose a serious threat at the moment, but will need to prove ourselves before being considered finalist. Overall threat rating 4/5.
Team Thor
Thor
East Wind
Professional Killer
Shadow
Zak
Killerking
Prometheus
SamtheButcher
Team THOR had a controverial pick with bagrada going as a top 10 player. This may not be as bad as some people think. Shadow will show for all the matches and play pretty well. I think the biggest question is going to be edub and THOR working together stratting and in-game. Can stb buckle down and do what THOR needs him to do? Zak is also in the mix, will he be a help or a hurt? Many questions swirl around this team. I don't think this team should be over looked, on any given week they may suprise someone. Their overall threat rating will be 3/5 for now.
Team Paris
Paris
Tirri
Cruniac
Arzenic
Slate
Funk
Arsenal
Empy
It seems that Paris has picked himself quite a team here. Players like tirri, Crun, and Arz should not be taken lightly. I think the biggest obstacle is going to be the players showing up and being prepared. Tirri, Arz, and slate are not guaranteed to show every week. With no subs being allowed every week will matter here. Paris can organize this team though, so I think they will be a serious threat. The 3 role players they have will also be a question mark. Overall threat rating is a 4/5.
Team Asmo
Asmo
Myrk
Adrenaline
Chron
Browning
PunkUser
Mark
This team looks to be favored to win by many. On paper they have a great roster with their top 5 players being rated 4 balls. Their 2 role players are quite good as well. I can tell you that Mark will be unlikely to show, I have been down this road a few times. Though he may suprise me, and I hope he does. This team will be riding high on confidence, and one bad week could have a mental effect. Overall they represent one of the biggest threats in the tournament, 5/5 threat rating.
Re: Crystal Ball Team TA's
Posted: 06 Oct 2013, 01:29
by par73
i don't get the point of using a 5 point scale in ratings instead of a 3 point scale, especially with no variation between ratings larger than 3. sounds like a huge scandal in boosting perception of a teams strength, and invalidates your Team TA's as benevolent SHIT TALK.
Re: Crystal Ball Team TA's
Posted: 06 Oct 2013, 02:26
by Ratking
Noted, but let me explain my rationale. I used the same 5 point scale as mwc would, and similar criteria for ratings. However this is a draft tourney so the average team here would look pretty decent in mwc. In fact any of these teams would look good in mwc. So I adjusted the ratings to condiser this, and used it because most players are familiar with it.
Anyway, amso's team being the favorite gets a 5. The two other teams I consider possible finalist were rated 4 (yours and mine). The team not likely to be a finalist but is still a threat is 3, THOR's team. None of what I say is passive aggressive, I just told it like I see it. Of course these are all subjective and just my opinion, but I think they will prove accurate.
I mostly do these so others will in turn do them as well, making for a better tournament.
Re: Crystal Ball Team TA's
Posted: 06 Oct 2013, 04:48
by Myrk
Really I was just a bit surprised to see captain and shadow picked before chron and arz, other than that the tiers of picks were about what I would expect.
Re: Crystal Ball Team TA's
Posted: 06 Oct 2013, 06:58
by Asmodian
I'm sure Arz being picked that late had to do with him announcing he is going to have to miss 2 weeks in a 4 week tournament.
Re: Crystal Ball Team TA's
Posted: 06 Oct 2013, 08:53
by par73
why is myrk's tournament not the #1 and top tournament in the active tournaments lists? i can't reckon why.
Re: Crystal Ball Team TA's
Posted: 06 Oct 2013, 16:41
by Ratking
That's why I didn't pick him earlier. Every week will count here and losing your best player for a week could be rough.
Re: Crystal Ball Team TA's
Posted: 06 Oct 2013, 18:58
by par73
well i was thinkin, tirri crun and I could hold down the fort; and as the tournament concludes in november Arz will definately be a great boost, as he said his activity issues are worse in october.
also tirri, arzenic and cruniac all have experience playing together on winning teams on various occasions.
Re: Crystal Ball Team TA's
Posted: 09 Oct 2013, 03:44
by Ratking
I didn't realize there was a 2 week period between when the matches started. With that in mind I think you may have Arz almost every week. I still think Slate will be the one to watch in terms of showing up everyweek, making him your X factor.
Re: Crystal Ball Team TA's
Posted: 09 Oct 2013, 07:08
by par73
RK here's my analysis of your ratings by what you actually said (positive, or negative) per statement made.
Also known as,
Damn RK, You don't know how to read your own fucking Crystal Ball!
Give me that shit.
What do I mean by my Crystal Ball reading skills are tighter than yours?
here's how i measured what you said, through my crystal ball:
positive statements generally relates to positive impact or team building related statements, which are represented by
+ symbols next to the statement to the right of the period.
while
negative statements involve doubts made about a team or player, which are represented by
- symbols next to the statement to the right of the period.
disclaimer: These are basic qualitative and investigative methods of research.
They prove no validity/reliability like
pretty much everything else posted on these forums.
Proving shit actually takes a lot more research than this.
Now that I have explained my technique, let's take a peek, at exactly what you speak.
Ratking wrote:Team Ratking
Let me say that I got the exact players that I wanted.+ Very suprising to me, usually I may get one or two.+ I think this will depend on the team and myself coming up with a good plan and being prepared before the matches.+ The only question mark for showing up is wwo, and I believe he will.- I think we pose a serious threat at the moment, but will need to prove ourselves before being considered finalist.- Overall threat rating 4/5.
You said 4/5, but on my scale you scored 3/5.
3/5
Ratking wrote:
Team Thor
Team THOR had a controverial pick with bagrada going as a top 10 player.- This may not be as bad as some people think.+ Shadow will show for all the matches and play pretty well.+ I think the biggest question is going to be edub and THOR working together stratting and in-game.- Can stb buckle down and do what THOR needs him to do?- Zak is also in the mix, will he be a help or a hurt?- Many questions swirl around this team. I don't think this team should be over looked, on any given week they may suprise someone.+ Their overall threat rating will be 3/5 for now.
You said 3/5 but Team THOR scored by my qualitative-to-quantitative judgement of what you said
3/7
Ratking wrote:
Team Paris
It seems that Paris has picked himself quite a team here.+ Players like tirri, Crun, and Arz should not be taken lightly.+ I think the biggest obstacle is going to be the players showing up and being prepared.+ Tirri, Arz, and slate are not guaranteed to show every week.- With no subs being allowed every week will matter here.+ Paris can organize this team though, so I think they will be a serious threat.+ The 3 role players they have will also be a question mark.- Overall threat rating is a 4/5.
You scored TP a 4/5, but you scored TP on my scale a
5/7
Ratking wrote:
Team Asmo
Asmo
Myrk
Adrenaline
Chron
Browning
PunkUser
Mark
This team looks to be favored to win by many.+ On paper they have a great roster with their top 5 players being rated 4 balls.+ Their 2 role players are quite good as well.-[rated negative because you contradict this statement following the next with logic.] I can tell you that Mark will be unlikely to show, I have been down this road a few times.- Though he may suprise me, and I hope he does.+ This team will be riding high on confidence, and one bad week could have a mental effect.- Overall they represent one of the biggest threats in the tournament, 5/5 threat rating.
You gave Team Asmo a 5/5 threat rating.
Maybe this is because the team contains a lot of teammates you respect for this recent MWC win.
Maybe its because you actually "perceive" them to be the biggest threat, but I'll get to this later.[*]
You scored Team Asmo on My Crystal Ball
3/6
Also,
every last statement about threat ratings were considered positive, as every team was depicted "greater" than at least half of a full threat (.500 1/2); i.e. the lowest was a 3/5 threat (.600%),
Every collective statement about a team increases +1/+1
Therefore, My Crystal Ball Reads
While you
consciously scored your team and THOR's team at 3/5 (humbly),
and you
consciously scored my team at 4/5
and
On my Crystal Ball
it actually means you scored everyone like this:
that means (ranked in numerically descending order)
Paris: 6/8
Ratking: 4/6
Asmo: 4/7
THOR : 4/8
Ratking,
I like the way you're projecting your team towards the finals as well as mine. I'll cya there buddy.
I got respect for your team and I'll be looking out for you.
[*]
Oh yeah, here's why you shouldn't consciously perceive Team Asmo like a 5/5 threat at all. Even if you are just being nice to recent teammates on forums.
I saw someone posting about conscious decisions by mythers the other day during game play. I think it was PunkUser.
And to that I say, I don't think it really works like that; to play consciously, once you know how to play.
I don't think it works like that at all.