• PARIS, FFA LEAGUE CHAMPION •

c⁄J⁄Iılk c⁄J⁄Iån ◊§t◊ · 29 Aug 2013, 19:37

GOLD MEDAL

PARIS IN FLAMES
301 POINTS

SILVER MEDAL

ADRENALINE
217 POINTS

BRONZE MEDAL

ZAGON
178 POINTS

LUZRZ:

funky 142
hipposthumous 140
doom 122
bainst 59
killerking 56
pallidice 56
samuel 44
prometheus 40
cruniac 35
slate 34
Zak 33
edulus 26
bruce cambell 26
gekko 25
habeus corpses 22
lizard king 22
asmo 20
professional killer 19
headhunter 18
ponder 18
gatarush 15
obelix 12
falcon 12
samthebutcher 13
gabba 10
renwood 8
indent 8
drunken 7
THOR 6
honkey 6
herod 5

week 1 highest score: adrenaline 32 points
week 2 highest score: zagon 42 points
week 3 highest score: funk 27 points
week 4 highest score: adrenaline 55 points
week 5 highest score: paris 40 points
week 6A highest score: paris 39 points
week 6B highest score: slate 34 points
week 7A highest score: adrenaline 45 points
week 7B highest score: paris 53 points
week 8A highest score: paris & hipposthumous 42 points
week 8B highest score: funk 45 points

statistics & films can be found here: http://games.gateofstorms.net/tournaments/FFA2013

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adrenaline · Post by **adrenaline** » 12 Sep 2013, 03:31

Need more control next time... so much hate play, guest accounts purposefully ruining games, idiots suiciding and people not playing gametype in general. Things got much better when moved to tourney room... definitely start there next time. If people wanna play, they can get on a real fucking account.

Zak · Post by **Zak** » 12 Sep 2013, 05:23

BEST RATIOS SO FAR: ZAK

c⁄J⁄Iılk c⁄J⁄Iån ◊§t◊ · 12 Sep 2013, 12:48

Henceforth, FFA League will take place in Phelot, the accounts only room.

That said, though there were a couple incidents I think you're being a bit dramatic

adrenaline · Post by **adrenaline** » 12 Sep 2013, 12:56

Not being dramatic at all... pretty sure 2 guest accounts coordinated a double against me and paris over ventrilo on gyre ctf. Also, PG ctf? You shouldn't even allow that shit... not even worth playing if you are mid start. Do I need to mention the intentional drops and suicides? I'm all for good FFA games... but those games last night were far from it, for the most part.

c⁄J⁄Iılk c⁄J⁄Iån ◊§t◊ · 12 Sep 2013, 19:51

There was one intentional drop and one intentional suicide out of 14 games. Both players were suspended for 3 games. Future games will be played in the accounts only room.

As for the gyre CTF game, you can find it here: http://games.gateofstorms.net/tournamen ... ames/15927

As you can see, the two guest accounts Kurt Rambis (Honkey) and Greg Ostertag (Asmo) were not the captains of their teams so their ability to coordinate something over vent would have been rather limited. And Honkey only got one kill so...

I really wouldn't stress too hard. You still had highest score, and things statistically work out over the course of the season.

Professional Killer · Post by **Professional Killer** » 12 Sep 2013, 20:01

Do this on days I can play so I can get dren a notch down!

zagon · Post by **zagon** » 12 Sep 2013, 22:25

do you get 3 points if you are on a team of two and beat a team of 3? I know you lose -1 point if teams have less people

c⁄J⁄Iılk c⁄J⁄Iån ◊§t◊ · 13 Sep 2013, 01:43

Yup zagon.

What days can you play on PK?

Professional Killer · Post by **Professional Killer** » 13 Sep 2013, 15:36

Evry day beside Monday and Wednesday's.

zagon · Post by **zagon** » 13 Sep 2013, 23:00

if you are on a team and have two people (and win) and a guy gets third with one person team do you only get +1 point or do you lose -1 pts

c⁄J⁄Iılk c⁄J⁄Iån ◊§t◊ · 14 Sep 2013, 02:28

You lose a point, obviously...

c⁄J⁄Iılk c⁄J⁄Iån ◊§t◊ · 14 Sep 2013, 02:28

Professional Killer wrote:Evry day beside Monday and Wednesday's.

Those are the only days I can play

zagon · Post by **zagon** » 23 Sep 2013, 22:31

what are the scores after 2 weeks of play??

c⁄J⁄Iılk c⁄J⁄Iån ◊§t◊ · 23 Sep 2013, 22:48

The scores are cumulative... you scored 42 points last week and have 62 points total.

zagon · Post by **zagon** » 23 Sep 2013, 23:59

ohh im sorry man didnt see you updated on the front end of the thread

thanks

par73 · Post by **par73** » 26 Sep 2013, 01:47

i had 4 wins in week 2:

and I'm lookin at these rules here:

Milkman wrote:In case of tffa, all members of the winning team receive 2 points for each losing team as long as all teams have an even number of players. If teams are uneven, a point is subtracted for each player less that each opposing teams possesses. Conversely, a point is added for each player more than each opposing team possesses.

http://games.gateofstorms.net/tournamen ... ames/16995

9 pts

http://games.gateofstorms.net/tournamen ... ames/16997

5 pts

http://games.gateofstorms.net/tournamen ... ames/17004

5 pts

http://games.gateofstorms.net/tournamen ... ames/17005

12 pts

= 31 pts

and in week 3 i won 1 game

http://games.gateofstorms.net/tournamen ... ames/17794

for 9 pts

i should have 40 pts

c⁄J⁄Iılk c⁄J⁄Iån ◊§t◊ · 26 Sep 2013, 11:53

fixed

Wished PunkUser hadn't flaked out on the autoscoring

Feel free to doublecheck your scores guys!

punkUser · Post by **punkUser** » 26 Sep 2013, 17:04

c⁄J⁄Iılk c⁄J⁄Iån ◊§t◊ wrote: Wished PunkUser hadn't flaked out on the autoscoring

Have done some work, but there's some work that needs to be done by the web guy at this point, and he has been out of town. It's still on the TODO list, but I'm trying to make sure I do it in a context that works for other scoring systems (like ranking, etc.) as well so that the work won't be only useful in the FFA League context. Given that those systems are somewhat more complicated than the points-based system here, there's some more work that needs to be considered.

So I apologize for it not being ready for this round, but when it comes it will be able to retroactively score the games that have already been played.

Note as well that nothing prevents you from auto-scoring with a script yourself using queries from the web site. I could provide an API to query the game info in JSON format or something as well if you think you could throw this together faster for your purposes than the general system I'm constructing.

c⁄J⁄Iılk c⁄J⁄Iån ◊§t◊ · 26 Sep 2013, 17:19

Woa hi PunkUser.

punkUser wrote:Note as well that nothing prevents you from auto-scoring with a script yourself using queries from the web site. I could provide an API to query the game info in JSON format or something as well if you think you could throw this together faster for your purposes than the general system I'm constructing.

Wellll considering I have no idea what JSON format might be and not even entirely sure what "query" means in this context I think that there is something preventing me. I look forward to this overarching system you're working on though!

punkUser · Post by **punkUser** » 26 Sep 2013, 17:51

c⁄J⁄Iılk c⁄J⁄Iån ◊§t◊ wrote: Wellll considering I have no idea what JSON format might be and not even entirely sure what "query" means in this context I think that there is something preventing me. I look forward to this overarching system you're working on though!

Fair enough, just thought I'd mention as that's something I could throw together fairly quickly if it was useful to people. Will continue work on the more general system in any case... just want to make sure whatever we develop is useful in other tournaments and "scoring" contexts too.

Web guy should be visiting me next weekend (Oct), so I'll take the opportunity to deny him food until he implements stuff

zagon · Post by **zagon** » 10 Oct 2013, 22:22

the stats and films appears to be down..

Was going to see how many more games you guys played after I left around 650. Im assuming 7-10 more

punkUser · Post by **punkUser** » 10 Oct 2013, 23:02

They're here: http://gateofstorms.net/tournaments/FFA2013
Just the games.gateofstorms.net subdomain is going away and that content is moving to the main domain.

NewMutator · Post by **NewMutator** » 20 Oct 2013, 22:33

Go Zagon!

c⁄J⁄Iılk c⁄J⁄Iån ◊§t◊ · 21 Oct 2013, 03:48

Noob Mutt you gotta cast the Temple of Gor Ash game from this last week's America conference... was epic

zagon · Post by **zagon** » 24 Oct 2013, 21:34

only 154?!?! Thought i was around 150 before this weeks games Could have been higher if we didnt have jackasses like ASMO ruining games

par73 · Post by **par73** » 25 Oct 2013, 06:50

U gotta go harder man, don't worry about that bitchmade idiot

adrenaline · Post by **adrenaline** » 30 Oct 2013, 13:41

how did Paris pass me? thought the games were tonight? did i miss something? lol

c⁄J⁄Iılk c⁄J⁄Iån ◊§t◊ · 30 Oct 2013, 17:57

He showed up to the Barbaria Conference

adrenaline · Post by **adrenaline** » 30 Oct 2013, 19:07

ahh i see. so are you allowed to play in both conferences? cause that would be a little odd... no?

c⁄J⁄Iılk c⁄J⁄Iån ◊§t◊ · 30 Oct 2013, 19:34

THIS IS STREET MYTH YOU KNOW THIS

par73 · Post by **par73** » 30 Oct 2013, 19:45

I have no problem beating and competing against players who participate in either conference.

adrenaline · Post by **adrenaline** » 31 Oct 2013, 00:23

well then, guess I'm gonna have to quit my job and take up FFA league full-time.

par73 · Post by **par73** » 31 Oct 2013, 00:36

or start working on the weekends!

punkUser · Post by **punkUser** » 04 Nov 2013, 18:16

Congrats par!

Btw automatic scoring got finished just in time for FFA league to end!

But it's up now and available for future tournaments (and for archival purposes):
http://gateofstorms.net/tournaments/FFA2013 (sort by score)

Note that the scoring differs slightly from MM's manual scoring, but if you find any inaccuracies in it (you can see the scoring column in each round and game), please let me know (otherwise Milk and I are assuming the errors were in the manual version). The overall rankings don't change much, just some minor differences in the totals.

par73 · Post by **par73** » 04 Nov 2013, 20:07

how does your scoring system and milk man's scoring system differ?

punkUser · Post by **punkUser** » 04 Nov 2013, 20:51

par73 wrote:how does your scoring system and milk man's scoring system differ?

One of them has mistakes

They are intended to be the same. i.e. all players on the winning team get Sum[2 + (loser_count - winner_count)] points for each loser team in a game (clamped to zero if relevant).

We're assuming Milk's manual calculation has the mistakes, but it's possible that the algorithm has errors (point out if you find a problem!). I've gone over a few cases like checking the points for the leader for the first few weeks and it seems to be Milk's calculation that is slightly off in each case (i.e. by missing a game, miscounting one, etc - unless I'm misunderstanding some corner case of his scoring method) but like I said, if you find issues with the online scores, please let me know so I can fix them!

c⁄J⁄Iılk c⁄J⁄Iån ◊§t◊ · 04 Nov 2013, 21:49

Also the first two weeks not everyone always played with accounts.

In either case, even we'd used the auto scoring you'd only be shy 2 points.

punkUser · Post by **punkUser** » 04 Nov 2013, 22:19

Yes, good point about the accounts Milk.

And yes, I checked over the overall order of rankings and very few changes occur in the automatic scoring vs your manual one, so I don't think it's really worth the time to go read it all over unless people are bored

Still, if anyone finds anything let me know.

par73 · Post by **par73** » 04 Nov 2013, 22:27

PunkUser; Do you think you could add a Winning % column to statistics, i know you realize how simple the mathematical formula would be to implement!

par73 · Post by **par73** » 04 Nov 2013, 22:31

c⁄J⁄Iılk c⁄J⁄Iån ◊§t◊ wrote:Also the first two weeks not everyone always played with accounts.

In either case, even we'd used the auto scoring you'd only be shy 2 points.

i only won 4/17 (.235) games in the first two weeks :O

adren went 7/30 (.233) playing in all games in the first two weeks