A single berserk reached us yesterday, after having come all the way over the mountains from the city of Willow, fourteen hundred miles away. He delivered to Alric a single package the size of a man's fist, wrapped in rags, and refuses to talk with anyone about events in the West.
Melekor wrote:Junk science not even worth reading.
Melekor ~only the science I like counts. The science I don't like is junk.
In any case, plenty of people disagree with your perspective. Good luck convincing anyone to your side. I guess if the science was so clear, cut, and dry on your side then it should be pretty easy to convince people. But I am not convinced in the least.
Melekor wrote:Junk science not even worth reading.
Melekor ~only the science I like counts. The science I don't like is junk.
In any case, plenty of people disagree with your perspective. Good luck convincing anyone to your side. I guess if the science was so clear, cut, and dry on your side then it should be pretty easy to convince people. But I am not convinced in the least.
I explained why it's junk. Nice of you to ignore the entire rest of my post too.
They don't use the word race, but instead "genetic clusters" which is the corresponding biological concept.
Using a clustering algorithm, if they cluster the genetic data into 5 clusters, the resulting clusters happen to correspond to the major geographic regions. This isn't really surprising, it's exactly what you would expect based on evolution... it is only surprising to the "race is a social construct" people whose belief is religious not scientific.
Giant Killer General wrote:I just don't get why you wouldn't at least some shred of understanding for why some people might feel the need to protest it if you seem to have some sympathies for the cause. If police killed a family member of yours, you'd probably want to do something about it. You can have some shred of understanding for the reasons behind it without having to agree with all of it entirely. It's not like people were motivated to organize all around the country for no good reason.
I specifically said that they have valid concerns and are going about their protests the wrong way.
I even said al qaeda has a few points too. You can disagree with the actions of a group and still see some truths in what they're bitching about.
I think BLM is right to protest against cops. I cant for the life of me understand why they want a bigger government which is only possible through police enforcement. I think they're wrong to destroy their own cities. I think they've been triggered by a lot of race baiting.
Melekor wrote:I explained why it's junk. Nice of you to ignore the entire rest of my post too.
And I explained why your post was irrelevant, and you didn't refute that. So not sure what else I am supposed to respond to. Everything you have been saying is a completely different argument that nobody here is making.
And every research article you post I walk away with a completely different interpretation. So to me it seems like you just nitpick some research that you can misinterpret to fit whatever you want it to mean. I would love to hear follow up articles or interviews with such researchers who can actually definitively say what they intended the conclusions of their research to mean rather than be subject to your overwhelming bias and misinterpretations. Since even the research is being interpreted so very differently between us, I've lost interest.
Bottomline is there are a bunch of smart people out there they know way more about this than any of us, and I don't see any of them writing or speaking in any sort of definitive way to agree with your viewpoints. I am willing to wager some of them would agree with mine though.
Go out and convince the world of your ideas. I will go out and convince the world of mine. And we can see who wins, and who the future will belong to. Bad ideas will die out in the end via ideological natural selection.
Unless you were born black, in the 1800's, you deserve to receive absolutely nothing! Any food you eat other than that which you grow or pay for your self is a gift to you. Reparation for what? Being born with African code? In case you haven't noticed there's a brother at the helm. So what's holding you back? The problem in the US isn't the code, it's the culture. The only time that is not is when your government is holding you down. oh and did I mention there is an African decent in the White House.
Yeah, things were tough but WE changed that. I'm sorry, why is it again I'm being devalued/paying for your food. Calm down brother, I'm talking to the crackers too. Well jigger, we're all in the same boat, but why am I the only mother fucker rowing?
GKG and switch ~ debate thread top 20 greatest hits
1. The elite in the US is conservative, and conservatives always lose in the long term.
2. Culture wars are a manichean battle between "true" and "false" ideas, with true ideas always winning in the end.
3. There is no such thing as a black and white dog because black is the opposite of white, they cannot exist in the same body.
4. Political Correctness is just being polite. Why are you against politeness?
5. Using the word marxist makes you sound like a conspiracy theorist. Please ignore the marxist roots of modern leftist thought.
6. Being against marxist feminist indoctrination means you are an anti-liberty hypocrite, and would probably like sharia law you MRA misogynist.
7. Sharia law is bad but we need to import more muslims and be more tolerant of their culture.
8. Women don't have any obligation to have kids. This country could probably use a population decline.
9. Stephen Pinker is a secret commie (his books against communism are just a clever ruse).
10. Truth is a popularity contest. The strength of evidence can be measured by volume of publications.
11. If you are against mass immigration of 3rd worlders into western countries, you are a racist bigot nazi white supremacist. Prove me wrong, cracker.
12. Some of the benefits of diversity at university campuses include increased chances of having conversations about race, and increased employment opportunities for ethnic studies professors.
13. Even if diversity lowers people's quality of life in the short term, it is awesome in the medium and long term because utopia.
14. If you can't see why being dispossessed and displaced by foreigners and made into a minority in your own country actually benefits you and enriches your life, this is only because you are a bigot with a closed-minded slave-owner worldview.
15. Diversity is our strength, diversity is good. But we need to destroy all diversity by race mixing everyone together.
16. Race is just a social construct that has no genetic basis and no effect on IQ. But mixed race people have the highest IQs.
17. Importing low skill workers can't depress wages because supply and demand isn't a zero sum game.
18. Poor education outcomes cause low IQ, not the other way around.
19. Endless free money for everyone is only part of the solution.
20. The definition of a supremacist bigot is someone who believes that genetics have causal effects on human beings. Genes only correlate with phenotypes, and correlation != causation. All normal, logical people know this.
21 (bonus). You have no argument!