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Okk... So this is why my TWS Ring is probably the best ring out of all the previous tournament rings that have come out in the past 7-9 years? I have played myth competitively realistically 6 years.. If you think i'm bullshitting im not? lets state facts.. Every tourney I joined no bullshit I have been playing with pretty much same group of friends 2006 MWC DET- with thor evil jake ratking 8th place, 2007 MWC WTC- with evil jake, garrick, ducky, ratking and neo taking 5th place. We actually almost defeated you that year losing to your CKCCS team which is practically BIA(which probably drove you into the player you are today :lol: ) . From this moment on i took a big break. I put 2 years of competitive myth aside and had to recollect my thoughts and take a break, i really thought we had a chance to win 2007 mwc but 12 task just literally dominated us. During my 5 years of giving myth a break I look at the history and see you dominated every year since ive been gone.

I come back in 2013 and see alot of cool familiar places still playing the game and decided to give myth one more ride. I see that you were the team to beat once again, so I decided to throw a team together with all my cool friends.

2013 wtc took 3rd place BEATING TMNS and than moving on to agents in getting blown out by AGENTS, taking 3rd place. TMNT and you of course taking first in a dominating fashion.

In 2014 WTC shouldve gotten our first tourney win but we got blown out when you decided TO JOIN VS and NUT HUG ASMOS team to steal that away from us! at that moment I WIll never forget the sweep we had! I realized it was time WTC to change, we needed new vision and a new captain at the seat. I had to let my old buddy thor go... We had all the right pieces to the puzzle but just no B AND C adaptions to our strategies, all we knew was LINES. it worked for a while but it was time for a change!

2014 mwc came around and we transitioned into the Gentlemen, big let down couple key players went elsewhere so we decided to roll with it and said fuck it. got 3rd place again... once again you won that year. MY passion to beat you just grew much bigger after 2014 mwc... So i entered into 2015 mwc with a Vegence.

The gentlemen transitioned into MoM and we ran shit 2015 year... Both big tournies i let my team down by not making it to the finals and that i will Never forget because i truly feel if i was there our Outcomes wouldve been different and here I wouldve been standing 2 x tws champ 1 x mwc champ all tourney wins against you... the finals i didnt make that year both my teams went to game 7 against you and i wasnt there :( :oops: ... but not gonna make excuses. real life shit happens.

Asmo tried to do what we just did to you in 2015 mwc and he failed miserably.

2016 You thought you can have your way with us but you failed miserably GKG, why was that? because we have been building this team chemistry since 2006 -2007 and 2013-16 . We have reached Super Sayian mode and no one in the myth community is going to stop us. not a team formed by asmo, not a team formed by limp and not a team formed by YOU. So whatever, you dont have to play, i could care less , All i know is my 2016 TWS ring Outshines alot of these 3-6 x mwc champs rings , why!? because i didnt nut hug your ass to get a ring, Peace out BRAH!

THE PEOPLES CHAMP

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Lahl, i had already won a mwc before anyone knew who you were, swing and a miss. I'm not going to read your inane drivel that consists of paragraphs of excuses/retirement speech #11. It all just looks like a buncha butthurt coward talk, sign up, don't, you lose either way. You're dismissed.

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Ratking wrote:Wank, nothing personal we just didn't see you towards the end of the tourney. Lets get you and anyone else we missed added to the team once rosters open back up.

A hypothetical TMNT v Syn wouldn't be possible as I played for both teams. That said, today Syn is the team to beat. We will undoubtedly smoke any team that signs up. I'm sure several people will post objections, as is their right. However their words will be fruitless without something to back it up. If you want any legit claim to talking trash you had better show up and win.
I was just trying to stir the trolling pot.

Life happened. I'll play with you guys... or whoever seems like the viable opposition. Work has slowed down for a bit so Sundays might actually be free time for me. If I get another contract, I'll probably disappear again though.

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What's awesome is that with the advances of medicine, we can enjoy this part of Myth for at least 30 more years.

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switch wrote:It's not like Ska and Dantski weren't on Vaalbara GKG. In fact, Asmodian had wwo, Chron, bone and PK on the roster. I wonder why all these players failed to show for their team? Could it have something to do with leadership decisions made by the Vaalbara commanders?
Dude one match Chron1 was the only one that showed

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Wow all this drama in an era you all claim is not even worth drama? This happens every tournament, you guys type enough to write several books.

Rawr, not bashing syn, but you guys won against Pagans 3-2-1. Syn almost lost to Owl&Gang. You guys can beat asmo this year though, no doubt. That's if kilg actually shows up and adren doesn't puss himself.

Looks like I can't put the Pagans back together, no one responds to forum mail and I don't know any alternate contacts. Good Luck 2 single teams in this years "MWC". I only had toxyn, KK, and maybe mike khan agree. No one else replied.

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Best thread in years, keep up the good work men

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Not bashing anyone, but if we show up in force, you're all fucked. It doesn't matter what kind of excuses gkg makes or who asmo hires, we're going to bury you all and that's that. The only reason pathetic idiots like asmo and gkg were ever even allowed to win tournies is as I said, the death of myth, which most good players including myself have done far before anyone knew or cared who they were, which at their peak was virtually no one, which is also incidentally the only way they could ever win a tournament.

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I'll only play in this MWC if there is an incentive. I have already pooped on WTC, which is who Syn is numerous times and there is no challenge to be had there.

If I play in MWC and syn wins I'll pay every player on their roster 30$. If I win then every player on Syn has to pay me 20$. Take it or leave it?

I don't know if MWC is even able to happen without me at this point; my influence is too great. So think of it as investment for Myth 2 living on, not as giving away 200$+ collectively to the 2nd Greatest Myth strategist of all time.

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jeez, Syn causing quite a stir after their TWS victory... enough that their opponents straight out refuse to reform and rematch them for MWC despite being open for all challenge. taking the cup and breaking records just by pure intimidation and invoking implosion... who'd have thought MYTH FOLK?

speaking of monetary incentives for MWC participation, i'll be implementing a player achievement system in memory of grim's initial thoughts to host MWC2013, may they rest in peace. The prizes will be similar to the article contest placements of the previous TWS.
If anyone would like to host an article contest, be my guest. The website will have features where your interested participants can post their work.

as for wagers on games, we should have done this years ago. in fact, we already did, hence the teams stacking for the dolla bills in 2004, 2006, 2007, 2008. once the prize money went away this became nothing but a gathering of amateur players with a love for the game. If you'd like to make wagers on our games Asmo I'd love to win back some of that money I put up for Funk's 1 round FFA joint :)

if you want to win some money for playing myth this summer, aside from the MWC achievement contest, the Gauntlet TFFA is kicking off in late July with a supporting website alongside MWC. Pre-registration has opened for that tournament as well and I continue to receive entries direct to my email for it, feel free to check out the blog and click the button for pre-registration. The prize money for that contest is 500$, you can split that with up to two teammates or go for it solo. Evil Jake is putting up the money for that tournament, he's doing his part as well to help keep the spirit of Myth alive and stable.

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Wait par it has a registration fee? Entry fee? Playing fee?


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Asmodian wrote:I'm pretty much afraid we're going to get leveled again no matter who's on my squad, so for the first time in my life I'll act like myth isn't important so I don't get embarrassed for the n'th time.
I feel you bro, but you still ought to give it a try. Noone has ever thought you were any kind of strategist or captain, you're just good at being told what to do by gk. Ratking pretty much excels you on every level, as do most people who still play. At what point you thought you were good, which it seems the entirety of the community disagrees with, is beyond me.

Like I said, sign up, don't, you lose either way.

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Whats really funny about all of this is the more trash thrown at Syn the WORSE VAAL LOOKS LOL!!!

Incentive to play? How about your dignity? FYI: Its currently residing in my toilet bowl so I can shit on it at will.

So you're telling me I trashed the FIRST AND SECOND GREATEST MYTH STRATEGIST OF ALL TIME??

It's settled then: I'm the best captain.

You're welcome Karma.

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Myth Pagans 2

Lord---Scary Owl (captain)
DBSeeker
Zak
SlatE
mikekhan
empy
Killerking
toxyn
ScaryMonster


Hopefully not finished squad, will think of a better name....

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Could someone post the rosters of syn and vaal? I don't who's on which side in this.

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wwo wrote:Could someone post the rosters of syn and vaal? I don't who's on which side in this.
Orginal Syndicate
Ratking
Par73
Evil Jake
Rawr
Adrenaline
Lizard King
Akira
Demolition
Argos
Funk
KROK V8 SS

The Casuals
Asmodian
Gekko
Professional Killer
Browning
Wwo
Myrk

11 vs 6 and most of the 11 are pretty crazed about actually winning this year. Too bad team DOOM will win.

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Xel come play with us!

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is syn/val down for a 1 match (7 game) series on a weekend? I'd be down for that vs. a whole tourney.

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Giant Killer General wrote: Oh and nice attempt paris to justify your desperation in clinging to made-up rules. You wanted me to play but you also tried to ban me from playing? Which one is it? You are contradicting yourself. Even your own teammates can't defend you on this (and they are just happy they walked away with the win regardless). Nobody is buying the bullshit you are selling.

The real story is this: you "obliged" only after being threatened by the finalist team to boycott the finals match as you tried to force them to play 5v7 without me. Apparently you forgot that the TO of an 18-year old computer game tournament with only a dozen or so competitive players left has no real power, and just needed a friendly reminder. And this is not the first time. It is a recurring pattern for you in each of your tournaments as my teams have had to repeatedly give you such reminders leading up to the finals in response to whatever new bullshit you are trying to pull at the time under the guise of being the "TO." Kind of an important detail you missed there. So you didn't "let me play." I let myself play.

I guess that's the difference between you as a TO and nearly everyone else that has ever TO'd tournaments though. Everyone else's priority is to just make sure the matches are competitive and fair (especially for the tournament finals) to preserve the integrity / legitimacy of their tournament, which also helps to support the long-term continuation of the competitive community which has been in decline for some time. You prioritize shitty made-up rules to ban competitive players from participating so as to force 5v7 matches to your team's benefit, even for the tournament finals. As you said yourself, you don't care how many players show up. Such a great attitude to have as a TO. And apparently you don't even care about those that do show up if they didn't follow your "rules" (and even if there are no complaints and everyone else wants them to play). Nice call bro.

Anywho, just wanted to clear that up for everyone. It's always a nice TO job when a finalist team has to threaten to boycott the finals match of the tournament. Another quality, paris-run, tournament experience for the players. I am sure everyone can look forward to more of the same for this MWC.

Good stuff gkg,
You seem to view the position of TO as a notable power trip and felt I was crossing that line giving you resistance because you asked to be removed from the tournament officially and suddenly "felt the need" to rejoin the tournament and participate. If I'm hosting an event for 50+ people I tend to prioritize the event around those who commit to be involved, and not for those who may show up for the "glorious finish line" that I don't know if they will be involved or not.
2/3 of the remaining teams had an issue with the rules at that point, it was the same rule about roster deadlines, and the needs of the teams trumped the rule in that case. Please tell me more about "protecting the integrity / legitimacy" of my tournament when one allows players to step over the guidelines they created for that tournament... that is catch-22 and you are no doubt correct I was in a situation of contradicting myself. deadlines bro, even tcox and bia2 failed to reach them.

despite the fact every other team had the same amount of time to build a team roster as vaalbara and they played most of their matches underhanded regardless, and Vaalbara didn't have any issues beating us undermanned when you weren't playing for them. I don't see how 5v7, 6v7 "finals" matches ruin the competition, especially when players have dropped from finals/semi-finals games for almost two decades. In modern tournaments with less competitive players, there is a substitute system in place to involve any present and willing spectators to the tournament upon the teams agreement.

Both teams had the same amount of time to build rosters that could show up for the in-game maximum for match times, teams are penalized. The challenge is greater for the team with less players sometimes, but the triumph comes with a greater share of the whole. One of the ways the substitute system works in part with the roster deadline is players can conditionally participate regardless of making the deadline or not.
I think Asmo could build a more formidable team with better strategies than Vaalbara was able to put on display regardless, which means more competition for Syn. Same for limp but I think he's looking to have a myth commitment free summer such as yourself this year. Without practice they both captained a thrashing of Syn in that first match, once you "took over" and captained their remaining games they leaned on you working on strategies alone in empty rooms on gos.net and it did not work out as efficiently. I think you could have done better if some of your teammates were with you as well.

Every team and player had been following the rules I created like the scheduling, the maps, posted guidelines etc. The biggest complaints I had aside from yours was about the use of the substitute system as the early eliminated teams felt it gave them less of a chance to be competitive, and the dropped host situation.
You can keep pretending every player in the tournament or every player on either team in the finals initially wanted you to play, but I don't think anyone believes that to be true except for you.
I think you forget your initial contribution to the tournament was a dropped host game between syn and vaal starting your initial dramatic entrance into the tournament.



The irony here?

The game you neutral hosted that was unfortunately dropped was the same game which ended the deadline.
Had you given the tournament a chance, and signed up to play with limp and asmo, et al. as you inevitably did regardless of the unnecessary drama you took part in invoking, we would have had a tournament that was drama free and had few complaints such as how the sub system was "unfair".

We can sit around and prioritize the two finals matches, but really if you had joined vaalbara from the start we could have played 7v7, 7v8. Our entire team aside from Kirk showed up to play that day. You wanted to sit and neutral host with your giant killing presence rather than join Vaalbara and participate in the games you had time for.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7UmDC3TiAI?t=1732[/youtube]
@ 7:17 asmo infers that you play and all you say is "lol..."
@ 12:15 you infer that you're watching gay midgit trucker porn while you host our matches, no doubt inciting the host drop with your loss of bandwidth
  • @ 12:51 we rehost because "4 mins of PT"
    @ 16:51 there's still 1:11 left in planning time because we rehosted
@ 28:52 host drop, maybe if you had less tabs open you could have multitasked between your preferred browser and a small heron flank

All of that inspired a bunch of whining and drama, which you can blame me for but I did not solely contribute to. the reality is, aside from being dramatic with asmodian telling him whether you could commit to the team or not, Vaal had to win most of the remaining games and the match was over regardless of the result of smells. In the name of good competitive games we could replay smells after we played the other scheduled games or watch the game and score it later. Instead of acknowledging this and moving forward there was a bunch of defensive unnecessary drama throughout the rest of the match, I think you ran off to review the film to make some general judgement about it.

Sure you guys threatened to boycott the finals, well notably just you. It is no different than hearing how you don't want to participate during MWC. So are you not interested or boycotting? Tell you what, you can have both; it's interesting to say they go hand in hand but be as you may.
So much "threatening" to "boycott", but it is what it is. Part of why people can look forward to it for this MWC is because you have leaders of a team who played in the previous seasonal tournament that are unable to reform or "boycotting", so they have already given up their right to play in the finals.
That is ok though, not all is lost you see. People will show up, or they won't; yet if you build it, they will come. Apparently, you forget that the Top Player of an 18-year old computer game tournament with only a dozen or so competitive players left has no real power, and just needed a friendly reminder. But this is not the first time this has happened in the history of Myth.

No one else wanted to organize MWC so I stepped up because no one else has the time to do it. You know who should have started hosting them a long time ago? You. Hell, the only time you've hosted an event that involved more than 10 people playing at one time was the allstar match last fall. There is nothing better than a neutral presence being a tournament organizer and that has not happened for years, it's rather unfortunate you don't want to step up and contribute your efforts to a game you've played and had success with for years while the risk is the unnecessary drama. I think you helped grim reach that same conclusion. The conclusion you helped me reach is that no one wants to look at a forum-run tournament regardless of how many "competitive or not" players are left, much less read the rules of a tournament before entering.

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East Wind tmnt wrote:is syn/val down for a 1 match (7 game) series on a weekend? I'd be down for that vs. a whole tourney.
Yea man that is what I'd like to see. Aside from the drama we played some 20+ quality games against each other on 4 separate occasions. Those were pretty damn good matches for 2016. we had to step our game up or you guys would have continued to walk all over us. if you think about it, right now the squads are 2-2, we needs a another tie breaker!
Asmo should set something up with RK.



I was thinking if gkg hosts the all star match the top quality contributors/winning team from that event could also challenge the team who becomes mwc champions to a 5 or 7 game series in another event.

the 2team pub scene unfortunately seldom offers quality games, these types of 1 match events are the type one could look forward to as well as build towards to keep the myth scene stable in the present and future.
Lord---Scary Owl wrote:Wait par it has a registration fee? Entry fee? Playing fee?
MWC or Gauntlet? neither, those are free events with prizes sponsored by participants.

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Can anyone explain what mwc kilgrath is trying to pretend that he won? So hilarious.

I will host another all-star match (7 games) which will consist of rat vs me as captains where we both pick and agree to the maps and teams, and with an even numbers of players to play on each team (none of which would be present in any paris-hosted mwc). This is something we had planned to do last year after the success of my last all-star match, so I assume rat will still be down for it. I also assume rat's team will feature many of the syn players that I would not want, so everyone can consider it as the real mwc finals match.

This will occur after mwc. So go have your mwc. I am simply not willing to endure another incompetently-run tournament hosted by paris after he tried to ban me from the last one, which is only just one more thing on top of all of the other shit he has tried to pull on me prior to the tournament finals of every tournament he has hosted over the last many years. I also do not give a shit enough for this game anymore to endure the several weeks of meaningless matches (either because they are against newbies, or because the results don't really matter) just to play the only match in the tournament that anyone gives a shit about. I also don't think there is enough talent left that is still active, or at least willing to show up, to justify diluting that talent by spreading it around to more than 2 teams (which is the whole reason I started the all-star match last year). At this point the community should just make the 2 best teams it can, because even with that it still can't keep up with the level of talent from teams in years past.

So here it is. This is the offer I am putting out to you all so you can have a chance to win a real match instead of clinging to victories in some 6v7 matches, the result of which you want to keep pretending had nothing to do with the other team being short a player (apparently the names on my team have been known to be so dominant for so long that nobody notices or cares when we are handicapped). As kilg wants to keep saying - sign up or don't, either way you lose, LOL. You wouldn't want to eat your own words by being the ones that are running away now.

P.S. - if asmo doesn't put in significant effort into trying to organize a decent team to play against syn, your mwc is completely fucked. I don't see anyone else willing to do it. You should all be kissing his ass right now.

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Pretty sure kilgrath won a mwc with nc

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let's resolve the conflict : Paris and Gkg will both be Co-organisators of the MWC this year.

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That's funny zak, cuz I was on NC the first mwc they won (mwc2009). Obviously he wasn't there. He wasn't on their roster for mwc10 either which is the only other mwc they won. So nope, that can't be it! Anyone else have any ideas? So hard to figure it out, eh?

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Maybe its a 2005 thing then

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Father Xmas wrote:let's resolve the conflict : Paris and Gkg will both be Co-organisators of the MWC this year.
Nope (again, would rather shoot myself in the testicles than do anything with Paris). But in an age of myth when there are clearly only 2 competitive teams (and its not even close), the entire tournament should be organized by those 2 team's captains. The role of TO is a completely meaningless position under these circumstances. The TO role is only needed when there are more than 2 competitive teams as an additional layer of abstraction to negotiate between all of them. The importance of the role increases with the greater number of different teams competing, and likewise decreases with the fewer, until with just 2 teams it is completely meaningless. With just 2 competitive teams, the people who actually get the only 2 good teams organized to show up and play (whether there are other newbie teams or not), and who can negotiate and mutually agree to the match rules, are the only people that matter because the tournament would fail without either one of those teams. So they make the tournament happen, nobody else. Additionally, if the TO is also a player they are almost always going to introduce bias into the process to favor their team (as paris has so aptly demonstrated for us all for so many years), and with only 2 teams, this bias can be very significant.

This should be the model for future tournaments (or at least competitive matches, if not tournaments), which is exactly what my all-star match format does. Which means paris is a complete non-factor that needs to be kicked to the curb. He is merely an annoyance that gets in the way of the process because he doesn't realize what a non-factor he is. Rat and I should be organizing them from now on.

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well
since the only point in MWC is to beat GKG (and keep tradition going)
and only RK have chance to do it ( since Mini-Me fail to do it and bite the dust)
All Star match sounds reasonable

but

that will cut off many players
and prob finally kill game

We can't do full-scale MWC, but cutting it to one match with 16 players / 7 games is bad idea.

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Zak wrote:Maybe its a 2005 thing then
Kilg hasn't won and isn't capable of winning a 2t tournament where he plays a significant part for his team. He makes average teams better and good teams worse. He can't hang with the top dogs in a tournament setting.

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shadow wrote:well
since the only point in MWC is to beat GKG (and keep tradition going)
and only RK have chance to do it ( since Mini-Me fail to do it and bite the dust)
All Star match sounds reasonable

but

that will cut off many players
and prob finally kill game

We can't do full-scale MWC, but cutting it to one match with 16 players / 7 games is bad idea.

RK has no chance of out caping GKG unless GKG half asses his preparation, which is possible considering where myth is at now. GKG has out captained much better captains than RK including Rabican,Ska and myself.

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Back to the original topic of the thread. I put together a team that would allow for at least 1 more true contender. If no one steps up and makes it then is there even a reason to do a MWC?

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All this crap about kilg, the guy is a great player. Who cares if he has/hasn't won a MWC. MWC is a team effort and most likely always will be.

And who cares if GKG wants/will play this year or had anything to do with a deciding factor in the syn vs Vaal match. It all doesn't matter, just enjoy probably one of the last years MWC will be around. You all say anything doesn't matter past 2012.

And the best captains? I can say best captains 2011 - Present.
1) GKG
2) Ratking
3) Ska
4) Rabican
5) Asmodian

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Asmodian wrote: RK has no chance of out caping GKG unless GKG half asses his preparation, which is possible considering where myth is at now. GKG has out captained much better captains than RK including Rabican,Ska and myself.
RK > Ska > Rabican > Raziel > ... > Trash Can with gkg's printed articles > Asmo > Random idiot

Asmodian wrote: Kilg hasn't won and isn't capable of winning a 2t tournament where he plays a significant part for his team. He makes average teams better and good teams worse. He can't hang with the top dogs in a tournament setting.
Oh my gosh

U need better psychiatrist smo
Pathological Narcissism, Psychosis, and Delusions aint joke
fight u disease !

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Asmodian wrote:Back to the original topic of the thread. I put together a team that would allow for at least 1 more true contender. If no one steps up and makes it then is there even a reason to do a MWC?
But Gee Mr Scrooge, Don't you understand the meaning of Christmas?
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maybe this is where we differ in our views for mwc.
14 and 15 had a focus on competition which worked out pretty well with that goal in mind as over half the teams had a shot at winning a few weekends in a row to become champions, but the player pools shrunk as anyone looking to casually join up for mwc with a team would get clunked on and there were not enough casual teams to make their match ups competitive. I used to be one to think if no one stepped up to make contenders, perhaps there is no reason to do MWC.

But MWC was born in the spirit of playing Myth with the friends you made on the game, the competition only came after. I've come to find the opposite is not true. This has become underappreciated over time as some players squandered to find the last breath of competition they would deem worthy for the glory. I think that as long as there is a meta-server that can openly gather groups of people to play Myth, there will always be a reason to do MWC in celebration of that very feat. As long as one enjoys the game of Myth 2, the glory is still there; and I doubt the meta servers will be around forever.

With the 20th anniversary of the games and the tournament in mind, the number of players and teams in MWC have only decreased over the years. Will those numbers ever increase? I think this might have occurred last around 03-06, will it happen this year? Time will tell, let's see who comes out to play some myth.

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Age,Deer, ect don't sign up for themselves anymore. If you are looking for numbers you have to be proactive in getting them to sign up. They aren't going to magically show up.


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Im almost done with my team

it will be better than deer, dont worry

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Nice LSO, gotta salute you . You remind me of me in 06-07 .

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it probably wont be as good as my TWS team though

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I don't know about Deer. I think Drunken is spending his time playing warhammer or something.
I'm looking forward to a potential Age or $upreme team this year, they helped encourage the idea of having a website.

lol rawr in 06 to 07 your team with the same core made improvement moving up from 8th to 5th place,
beating the team that had eliminated you in the prior year handidly in the QRs... none other than nfdf/$upreme.
was gardener willie actually your brother or was that someone playing on a dummy account?

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Giant Killer General wrote:That's funny zak, cuz I was on NC the first mwc they won (mwc2009). Obviously he wasn't there. He wasn't on their roster for mwc10 either which is the only other mwc they won. So nope, that can't be it! Anyone else have any ideas? So hard to figure it out, eh?
The closest he came was being benched for the 2008 finals

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Legend has it cave benched himself in the finals of 2007 to give NC the opportunity to bring the series of sudden death, but failed to join the last two SD games passing out drunk to Lordi...
Father Xmas wrote:let's resolve the conflict : Paris and Gkg will both be Co-organisators of the MWC this year.
I would have jumped at this offer if it was given, but clearly he'd rather risk a nut or two than do something like that. The world might be better off though, you could have something going here Xmas! Hell, I would have sat aside from MWC if he had stepped up to run it himself and play. Or not play because hes not really interested in the weekly matches (and could sub on the competitive team in the finals that fails to bring 7 players present.) At the very least if someone else had been willing to run the show I would have been willing to volunteer to TO, offer a website and domain opportunity, and advertise.

I would prefer having players or captains on the other teams of MWC step up to volunteer being a TO throughout the event. It's more fun for me, less work, less hopping in and out of games. Perks are you get to be a spectator to pretty much any match, have extra website features and have the opportunity to know the rules better than anyone on your team. You're not even obligated to "save and compress" myth films to post results anymore, just make sure the kids play in the tournament pool. Being an organizer gives leeway to make magic happen like that, hard to say the two teams who earned their spot to the finals would want a 3rd party stepping in who neutrally observed the entire tournament though it's not impossible. For someone who has been a member of the winning team of the last 5 MWC's, I can't find a better excuse to make a progressive rule like that. There will be an official post later in efforts to recruit those volunteer TO's to help the event run smoothly, I wasn't asked until halfway through the finals last tournament so rather than wait for such an opportunity I'll look to create one.

As you can see though Xmas, he's all set with that type of collaboration. He'd rather run his mouth about feeling singled out and wronged in a structured setting and start blabbing the same crap he private messaged me in the myth lobby about 2-3 years ago how he'd 'make me disappear' from myth if he could. I think he truly lost his patience with my organized events around the same time when he signed up for the 8-team TWS to experience his first 2team tournament lost in years, a 5-0 ass-stomping 2v2 between myself and shadow vs him and shef in the QR's. He'll get mad I called that his first 2team tournament lost in years too. That's okay though, he's always mad, he's been mad about it before too. It's the same bitterness he's had when I've voiced my opinion about the regulations of Asmo's tournaments, but of course when we were teammates and did the same while grim was still hosting he couldn't care less. grim would have retired from that volunteer work eventually but the process was no doubt sped up when he threw an outright fit about the MWC grim intended to host in 2013. I picked up the pieces then. limp helped and picked maps! :) but he was on my team >:O. Now as no one wants to step up to host a MWC in 2016 with the 20th year anniversary looming and grim made the call of all calls via forum post, I will do it once again. The game just doesn't provide the opportunity for a level of exclusive elitist myth gameplay anymore, the process he's looking for, so if you're interested in finding your resolution you can ponder why he continues to dig for it.

I have no problem being the poster child for having an opinion against that "exclusive elitist myth gameplay" process. He stated the purpose of the All-Star match was to create that "MWC finals feel" but without playing with your team and potentially against your opponents prior to the finals that "feel" is nothing more than an abstract fabrication of what that 'feel' truly 'feels'. One could argue either half of the finals of TWS, which took two weekends to play in it's entirety, had more of a "MWC finals feel" than the one match 3 hour 'showdown of captain prowess' between gkg and Asmo taking place following last MWC (because Asmo was subjugated to never having an opportunity to captain against opponents during MWC, even against Deer). Apparently Asmo and gkg weren't biased in the process of picking the teams for the "All-Star" match, but as a member of the squad who gave their MWC15 Champion team a 5-0 ass whooping in the QRs , won more games than 95% of the player pool in the tournament, and having better or similar statistics in ratios compared to the two "All Star" champs I somehow missed the mark and was "uninvited", I wonder how that happened, really boo hoo. Gave me extra motivation to perform solidly and coincidentally I end up on gkg's team.


Even with the gracious "All-Star" match, the original rosters couldn't field, the intended rosters couldn't field and required subs ranging in skill and "2team Top Tier Qualifications" from myself to BOC. After having played in the event, I think it would be wiser to label every rusty myth re-known veteran who might play as an invitee to the event as the obvious "actives just enough" will more than likely be present and listed, this would at the very least invite more skilled veteran opponents to return to the scene, if only for a few games of great teamplay on freshly developed meshes that players have little to no collective experiences on. The All-Star match wouldn't have existed without MWC2014 and all of those players would have been even more inactive showing up to play some games on behalf of two captains who spent their time and effort handpicking maps mutually and developing strategies for them.

That match itself was pretty fucked up because you had two captains putting in a decent amount of effort and one team showing up for one captain and the other team not showing up for the other captain (the maps being unfamiliar for some made it worse). Was there even a period of time to strategize as a team aside from showing up the day of the event and hearing orders in pre-game and hearing orders in game? There was a trio of TO's for the event in limp, gkg and asmo; Once limp showed up he went to gkg's team, so aside from limp potentially working on/reviewing strategies with gkg prior to the match then there was no such period of time. Without the time to build leadership and chemistry, or the opportunity to play the maps together having been scheduled to a single match 7 game myth marathon pretty much turned into a lopsided match where about half of the participants enjoyed themselves. Most of the intended participants who unfortunately couldn't make the event were also well known to be players who were adaptive and without their pieces the cogs did not fit. It was nothing more than a scheduled rabble stack pub game where GKG led raziel's armies against the likes of Asmodian's THOR tribes, in retrospect.


Apparently I'm running tournaments all wrong and a bias to influence rulings in favor of my team/entry which has been prevalent in the some 10 tournaments I've hosted despite: failing to make the finals in more than half of them and only winning my first this last spring (a 50% shot with two competitively stable teams out of 5); but that thought is coming from the guy who has been in the finals every tournament he has ever hosted for myth aside from one so who really cares aside from him. I doubt that shit ever applies to him anyway!

Maybe he fails to see the bias involved when one handcrafts rules for participants to fallback onto when unsure how to proceed in a tournament setting. Or maybe he fails to see the bias involved that a TO would know the rules better than anyone else and notify someone in violation. It doesn't really matter. Gkg can accuse me of trying to "ban him" from TWS but all I was ever doing was telling him what the rules were which he instantly got defensive about and turned it into an issue on behalf of his dwarven-like grudge for my Jabrones. If he's not playing in MWC I wonder why he continues to whine here, ah wait, I don't have to.


Sorry TB!

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Paris turn all of that into one paragraph for me...

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What the crap Paris? Why did you apologize to me? I tried really hard to read that shit but I just couldn't do it.

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I think paris trolls us with his myth essays

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thread was fun til the paris essay, didnt read it.

can you abridge it for those of us with ADHD please?

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Lol what kind of fake ass jobs do you illiterate niggas have if you can't read Paris articles in a few minutes?

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We all can switch, we are just too lazy

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dac wrote:thread was fun til the paris essay, didnt read it.

can you abridge it for those of us with ADHD please?
ALL STAR TOURNEYS ARE CONTRIVED BECAUSE YOU CAN'T COORDINATE / HAVE TEAM CHEMISTRY.

GKG WINS HIS TOURNEYS, PARIS DOESNT; GKG RIGS, PARIS DOESN'T.

(caps lock for the adhd, assuming yelling at you might make more sense)

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Thank you wank that helps a lot

Why did he say sorry TB?

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