MWC Finals 2016 Maps

Giant Killer General · Post by **Giant Killer General** » 02 Aug 2016, 01:31

Week 3 Finals Maps

Game 1: Peace on the Ramparts TE (2T Dark) Territories 12 minutes
https://ufile.io/2bed3

Game 2: Green Acres TE (light) FR 12 minutes
http://tain.totalcodex.net/items/show/g ... s-2013-t-e

Game 3: A Poison Holiday (Dark) KOTM 12 minutes
http://tain.totalcodex.net/items/show/a ... wc-edition

Game 4: Tallow Abbey TE (light) CTF 16 minutes
http://tain.totalcodex.net/items/show/tallow-2013-t-e

Game 5: Beckoning Wild TE (FG) FR 12 minutes
https://ufile.io/c9b15

Game 6: Sneer of Cold Command (2-dark) KOTM 12 minutes (A Shattered Visage)
http://tain.totalcodex.net/items/show/a ... -visage-te

Game 7: Fosgarach MWC07 (light) Territories 12 minutes
http://tain.totalcodex.net/items/show/f ... k-mwc-2007

Week 2:
Game 1: Leagues from Somewhere (light) - King of the Map - 12 mins
Game 2: Hvergelmir (Dark) - Flag Rally - 12 mins
Game 3: Barbarian Valley (Light) - Capture the Flag - 14 mins
Game 4: Acts of Cruelty - Territories - 12 mins
Game 5: A Day at the Beach (Shuffle) - King of the Map - 12 min (the flags are slightly uneven, but not enough that it should make a difference) [Modus Operandi plugin]

Week 1:
Game 1: Quixotism (Dark) - Territories - 12 mins
Game 2: Creep on the Borderlands (Light) - Assasin - 12 mins grim 2t mappack
Game 3: Lichen unto death (Trow) - Capture the Flag - 14 mins grim 2t mappack
Game 4: Under Muirthemne Under Muirthemme (Light) (2t) – King of the Map – 12 mins (normal difficulty)
Game 5: Arcane Haven 2t (Trow) - Flag Rally - 12 mins

Suggestions so far:

kotm grilling grounds (is it possible?)
hver dark fr
caer mesh with fetch / stygs / hgh
ctf barb valley light
shuffle dark
acts (fg) territories / kotm
broken arrow
mjila
sieve light assassin or stamp
capture on four leaved fen light
in the midst of 4 trow: kotm
Dun Caric terries, kotm, or fr
Sieve (Light) - CTF - 14 minutes [grim mappack]
Dun caric (Light) - King of the Map - 12 mins [grim mappack]

Zak · Post by **Zak** » 02 Aug 2016, 02:15

Please implement some Grim 2 team pack selections

Giant Killer General · Post by **Giant Killer General** » 02 Aug 2016, 02:16

Please make some suggestions. Limp asmo and I will come up with the maps in the next couple days. You are free to provide input as well.

Zak · Post by **Zak** » 02 Aug 2016, 05:16

So every map has statues from the great divide as assassin targets, placed strategically around the map, sometimes just 2 or three, or sometimes a dozen, so keep that in mind if I recommend assassin.

dun caric (Light) ctf

Tamaerlin light (assassin or CTF)

shuffle (trow) FR

Quixotism FG (terries or assassin)

Acts (trow) Flag Rally

Grave reason (FG) captures or FR or assassin

Sieve (light) koth

Calm (FG) KOTM

grilling grounds (light) CTF

hvergelmir (light OR dark) ctf/FR/assassin

In the midst (light) ctf

Keep across the River (FG) captures

party on the oasis (trow/fg) CTF

Asmodian · Post by **Asmodian** » 02 Aug 2016, 07:46

These are the week 1 maps. I might still swap one of the light maps bc they are both melee oriented atm. You guys can choose whatever maps you want week 2 & 3

Quixotism (Dark) - Teritories - 12 mins
Creep on the Borderlands (Light) - Assasin - 12 mins [grim 2t]
Majestic Falls 2t FG - Capture the Flag - 14 mins
Under Muirthemme (Light) (2t) – King of the Map – 12 mins
Arcane Haven 2t (Trow) - Flag Rally - 12 mins

sharkdrivingabus · Post by **sharkdrivingabus** » 02 Aug 2016, 11:12

Do people still play smells like blood in here? You should do that one.

Giant Killer General · Post by **Giant Killer General** » 02 Aug 2016, 12:17

Asmo you can go ahead and choose all 5 games if you want. Limp says he doesn't want to pick any (and I don't particularly either). I will just quickly double check them to make sure they are good to go.

Wank · Post by **Wank** » 02 Aug 2016, 12:59

Your map picks are terrible and lack creativity. I propose you jerkoffs play single player coop at the same time and whoever can beat the map first wins the MWC FINALS 2016.

I figured out what this tournament stands for and why you should only be allowed to play coop. THE MULTIPLE WUSS CONVENTION FINALS 2016

Giant Killer General · Post by **Giant Killer General** » 02 Aug 2016, 13:51

LOL, the butthurt is gettin real in here gents. Keep it comin wank, yur fukn gold.

Zak · Post by **Zak** » 02 Aug 2016, 15:22

do these 2 grimpack maps; sieve light koth and grave fg captures, for the 2 remaining picks gkg

Giant Killer General · Post by **Giant Killer General** » 02 Aug 2016, 15:43

I am hesitant about any captures picks since there are usually massive problems with it at worst, and at best it is almost always uninteresting strategically, but I will take a look. At worst I may just want to change the gametype.

Maybe you can pick on limp's behalf zak if he doesn't mind. You seem to want to, you are on his team, and he doesn't want to pick anyway. I'm mostly fine with picks as long as it doesn't look horrible and asmo isn't completely against it, it should be fine.

Zak · Post by **Zak** » 02 Aug 2016, 15:50

Assassin may work better on that map, it uses the statues from the great divide

My alternative pick would be calm (fg) KOTM

Wank · Post by **Wank** » 02 Aug 2016, 17:03

Giant Killer General wrote:LOL, the butthurt is gettin real in here gents. Keep it comin wank, yur fukn gold.

The chatblighting is only in round 1 of DE form, not even finals status yet. Much like your 'world cup'.. more like Myth World Coup. My butt doesn't hurt as much as yours, clearly. My dick is sort of sore from slapping you around in the forums though..

Giant Killer General · Post by **Giant Killer General** » 02 Aug 2016, 18:43

Okay I reviewed asmo and zak's picks and these are the changes so far:

-Dun Caric is changed to king of the map instead of CTF due to the NE start having too much of a start advantage
-Grave (FG) is vetoed. It has a weird unit type on it, only 1 kind of arty unit, and nothing very good to keep FG's in check. Calm (FG) also vetoed for the same reasons.
-I am fine with sieve light but I suggest a new gametype other than koth so the full map can be utilized. This will be sent to asmo and limp for further approval

Zak I am fine with taking picks, but make them more conventional. Uninteresting weird unit types just for the sake of doing something different is not good enough. Also FG picks need to have a very careful balance on them to keep FG's somewhat in check.

Giant Killer General · Post by **Giant Killer General** » 02 Aug 2016, 19:25

Ok asmo is going to pick all of the maps for the first week (pending limp and I's approval). we are still accepting picks for the 2nd and 3rd week though.

Zak · Post by **Zak** » 02 Aug 2016, 21:10

Wasps are spiders that can fly and firbolg are archers with pus arrows, neither are very new or uninteresting. Adapting to them would be pretty easy. On grave there is only 1 FG, with tons of potential for it to get wighted, and the warlocks will do tons of damage to it too, if it isn't swarmed by wasps.

Zakpicks Grimpack DE 2:

hvergelmir light ctf

Hvergelmir dark FR

Grilling grounds light assassin

Party fg lmoth

Tamaerlin light koth

HMP · Post by **HMP** » 02 Aug 2016, 21:32

Under Muirthemne light/shadow/dark. Light KOTM worked well in mwc15 finals. Would like to see shadow or dark though since they are a little faster paced for a fairly large map.

Might also have something brand new ready by then.

Asmodian · Post by **Asmodian** » 02 Aug 2016, 22:19

I'm pretty sure I will be using Under Muirthemne. I'm a huge fan of it and the games on it have played out really well.

Asmodian · Post by **Asmodian** » 02 Aug 2016, 23:01

Asmodian wrote:These are the week 1 maps. I might still swap one of the light maps bc they are both melee oriented atm. You guys can choose whatever maps you want week 2 & 3

Quixotism (Dark) - Teritories - 12 mins
Creep on the Borderlands (Light) - Assasin - 12 mins [grim 2t]
Majestic Falls 2t FG - Capture the Flag - 14 mins
Under Muirthemme (Light) (2t) – King of the Map – 12 mins
Arcane Haven 2t (Trow) - Flag Rally - 12 mins

wwo · Post by **wwo** » 03 Aug 2016, 06:38

I've forgotten which they're on, but could we please not have any maps that use the "old" TFL FGs, and make sure it's only the (Badlands?) one that Piety uses?

And if Zak wants to do us a solid, he can replace those for us and give us updated meshes.

Giant Killer General · Post by **Giant Killer General** » 03 Aug 2016, 18:59

I am fine with the pick except maybe the gametype on majestic falls. My primary concern is that it will be too boring for most people playing it. It is a huge map to be playing CTF on with FG's in the mix. I will have limp weigh in. If anyone else has an opinion on that let us know.

I think I may want to suggest changing the gametype on that. I like the map, just not that gametype for it. I know FR has been done before, but terries, kotm, or even koth would be better imo.

Zak · Post by **Zak** » 07 Aug 2016, 02:30

are we doing lichen or majestic falls for game 3?

Giant Killer General · Post by **Giant Killer General** » 07 Aug 2016, 02:58

Lichen. The correct list is in the original post.

Giant Killer General · Post by **Giant Killer General** » 07 Aug 2016, 18:37

Link for arcane:

http://hl.udogs.net/files/Uploads/%20Us ... bv0.92.rar

Asmodian · Post by **Asmodian** » 09 Aug 2016, 17:57

Leagues from Somewhere (light) - King of the Map - 12 mins
Hvergelmir (Dark or Shadow) - Flag Rally - 12 mins
Barbarian Valley (Light) - Capture the Flag - 14 mins
Acts of Cruelty - Territories - 12 mins
A Day at the Beach (Shuffle) - King of the Map - 12 min (the flags are slightly uneven, but not enough that it should make a difference) [Modus Operandi plugin]

Week 2 maps

Giant Killer General · Post by **Giant Killer General** » 11 Aug 2016, 12:23

Sorry for the delay in looking at these.

I like these picks. We will go with hver dark instead of shadow.

The only one I was kind of "meh" about is acts of cruelty, but I guess trying to put an fg map in there since a few ppl wanted that, and its one of the few fairly well balanced fg maps.

I will run them by limp to get final approval or get his input.

wwo · Post by **wwo** » 11 Aug 2016, 22:00

What is Day at the Beach plugin name? Or just link the dl.

Asmodian · Post by **Asmodian** » 11 Aug 2016, 22:03

http://tain.totalcodex.net/items/show/m ... randi-v1-1

Day at the beach

wwo · Post by **wwo** » 11 Aug 2016, 22:06

Thanks. Have it.

Does anyone have the 1.8.1 installer for windows? The dl is not completing for me.

Giant Killer General · Post by **Giant Killer General** » 13 Aug 2016, 15:27

The tain is down, so here are temporary URL's to download week 2 maps (also linked in the original post in this thread):

http://www.megafileupload.com/o7w2/leag ... omewherev3
http://www.megafileupload.com/o7w3/Modus_Operandi_v1.1
http://www.megafileupload.com/bx50/Barb ... ourney_2.2
http://www.megafileupload.com/bx51/Acts_of_Piety_v1.0
http://www.megafileupload.com/bx53/Hvergelmir_v1.4

Giant Killer General · Post by **Giant Killer General** » 14 Aug 2016, 02:09

Limp please try to have map/game picks done by say around Wednesday, so we have enough time to review / confirm them. Also may want to have 1 or 2 extra picked out in case I see any issues with any of them. 7- game series remember.

Asmodian · Post by **Asmodian** » 14 Aug 2016, 07:22

Going to give people 2 days to give suggestions. Just going to pick what I want after that.

Proposed Finals Maps

Here are the proposed finals maps if I get to pick them. I took a lot of time to get the perfect balance of unit sets/game types & fun maps

3 light maps - each with a slightly different unit set
2 trow maps/dark - different unit set
1 dark map
1 unique unit set - Great Divide

Note: Only thing missing is an FG map. I couldn't find a good on that is balanced

Majestic Falls 2t (Light) - Territories - 14 mins http://tain.totalcodex.net/items/show/majestic-falls
Shuffle off this Mortal Coil (Dark) - Flag Rally - 12 mins http://tain.totalcodex.net/items/show/s ... ortal-coil
Green Acres (Trow) - King of the Map - 12 mins http://tain.totalcodex.net/items/show/g ... s-2013-t-e
Eyrie (Light) NUT - Capture the Flag - 12 mins http://tain.totalcodex.net/items/show/eyrie-2013-t-e
The Great Divide - King of the Map - 12 mins http://tain.totalcodex.net/items/show/divide-mwc-2007
Sieve (Light) - Assassin - 12 mins [Grim 2t pack] - (The 6 fir'bolgs you can trade for have 1 puss arrow each] http://tain.totalcodex.net/items/show/g ... m-map-pack
Poison Holiday (Dark) - Flag Rally - 12 mins http://tain.totalcodex.net/items/show/a ... wc-edition

Zak · Post by **Zak** » 16 Aug 2016, 21:36

Here are my suggestions. I think the barrens and party on the oasis maps both have good fg trades

Zak wrote:
Zakpicks Grimpack Round 3:

hvergelmir light ctf

Hvergelmir dark FR

Grilling grounds light assassin

Party fg lmoth

Tamaerlin light koth

Giant Killer General · Post by **Giant Killer General** » 17 Aug 2016, 00:19

it's like I told you before zak, your picks have too many weird units. need more normal stuff. gametypes are pretty terrible too (lmoth but no kotm). We just got done doing hver dark fr last week too so we aren't repeating that. and I am not convinced that would make a good FG map since there is no pus, fetch, or dorf heroes. Also need 7 maps.

Limp, need maps from you by end of the day tomorrow. Otherwise we might just go with Asmo's picks.

limp · Post by **limp** » 17 Aug 2016, 02:12

Will do, finishing up 4 new maps.

wwo · Post by **wwo** » 17 Aug 2016, 02:24

Will do, jizzing on 4 color maps.

Giant Killer General · Post by **Giant Killer General** » 17 Aug 2016, 12:50

Limp's map choices below. I am reviewing them shortly.

1 Peace on the Ramparts TE (2T Dark) Territories 12 minutes
https://ufile.io/2bed3

2 Green Acres TE (light) FR 12 minutes
http://tain.totalcodex.net/items/show/g ... s-2013-t-e

3 A Poison Holiday (Dark) KOTM 12 minutes
http://tain.totalcodex.net/items/show/a ... wc-edition

4 Tallow Abbey TE (light) CTF 16 minutes
http://tain.totalcodex.net/items/show/tallow-2013-t-e

5 Beckoning Wild TE (FG) FR 12 minutes
https://ufile.io/c9b15

6 Shattered Visage TE (dark) KOTM 12 minutes
http://tain.totalcodex.net/items/show/a ... -visage-te

7 Fosgarach MWC07 (light) Territories 12 minutes
http://tain.totalcodex.net/items/show/f ... k-mwc-2007

Giant Killer General · Post by **Giant Killer General** » 17 Aug 2016, 13:06

Limp, your tallow abbey TE pick is bugged on CTF. The south start has 2 flags. Better quality control plz. Need a new pick, or change the gametype to a non-bugged one.

Edit: nevermind. for some reason the problem went away later. I must have had a different mesh selected or something, not sure what happened actually. I remember this map having this problem before though too.

Also, can you confirm that "Sneer of Cold Command" is actually the correct mesh name for game 6 / shattered visage?

Asmodian · Post by **Asmodian** » 17 Aug 2016, 18:09

Looks good for the most part.

Poison Holiday as one of the KOTM picks, meh. (going to just be BC in the end instead of a true KOTM type of game)

Tallow Abbey CTF zzzz. Map is too small for ctf; it will turn into a game of BC rather than a good game of CTF where strategy plays a big part. You pretty much confirm that by putting the game time to 16 mins on a map that small. Might as well just play Lmoth

Shattered Visage: I feel like Bre ninjas would be a good unit to add on this mesh of Shattered Visage. There is nothing to really to counter the Mortars as is so it's going to be pretty campy. (ok pick regardless, but i know people are going to complain about the campiness of it)

So yeah anyway my suggestions is change the Tallow Abbey pick to a better map for CTF & Poison Holiday as well. Giant units on KOTM in general is pretty bad, but if you really want a trow map for KOTM I would at least go for When the Trow Comes around. Better flag placement and map for KOTM.

I suggest you take my advice as someone who didn't pick captures for every round of a MWC

. Just busting your balls, good picks overall, but change the two I suggested!