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Melekor

wwo wrote:The only problem is for the casuals, who are justified in not automatically knowing which exe to have their shortcut pointing to.

God forbid some casuals are forced to use a braincell once in a blue moon.

Melekor

I was just messing around, but every BETA in the past on myth before this and the last one has allowed you to continue using that beta version even when a new patch came out. Seems like an unnecessary change to make. We've been doing this since at least 1.7.0 (2009), and possibly earlier. It's not ...

Melekor

my 1.8.1 has flaws in it. my windowed mode is larger, and the resolution is all jacked up, and the bottom inch of my screen is cut off so i cant see what im typing in lobby. The solution was given when you posted the same thing in the PB#1 beta thread. Did you forget already? link: http://tain.tota...

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but i'd back Mel's idea of simply making the tain the go-to forum. I actually didn't suggest this. What I said was magma could host this forum on our server, if no one else could be arsed to do it. At the very least I don't want to see the content get lost as has happened with some of the old MWC s...

Melekor

It's pretty hilarious that I'm such a controversial figure just for having done some basic moderation on our forums. iirc I've banned all of 2 people in my entire 12+ year tenure as a mod and only given out a few suspensions.

Melekor

1 month ban or permaban are both equal disqualifications. even if not the "moderator" per-say, whoever has the keys to the forum is the super admin and certainly does have moderator powers by default. You can't make a distinction between different types of forum moderation? The PM forums are a kind...

Melekor

Seeing as melekor and certain other project magma types have a history of being sensitive and moderating forums against anyone that might insult them (such as permanently banning dac from the pmnet forums), I really don't think it is a good idea to be entrusting them with forum hosting. Someone els...

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Just took a quick look at discord and it's pretty different than forums. It's more centered around chat and voice, and you wouldn't be able to import the existing forum content there. So we'd still need a new home for this forum unless people don't care if all the old threads are lost. Besides that ...

Melekor

Has an agreement already been made for who will be hosting the mirror?" Not sure, why not start a topic to organize it? I'd start by talking to grim, toxyn and par, all of whom have expressed some level of interest in doing community sites recently or in the past. Like I've stated, my personal opin...

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I did actually go through some of them in the original post, but to summarize again, it's as much about the necessity of having forums here *at all* going forward, not about there being multiple forums all over the place, etc. There were only ever forums at GoS as a way to hyjack the user registrat...

Melekor

ooh fascinating, I have complete confidence that these self reported numbers are correct. Looking forward to the penis size version of this thread

Melekor

There wasn't any reasoning given besides phpbb costing money and work. You made reference to having made arguments in the past but I'm not aware of these and I'm not sure why you assume everyone is? Does phpbb+metaserver actually require a more expensive server package than the metaserver itself? Se...

Melekor

I just read the thread twice and I'm still clueless about why the forum should close. It's completely unclear.

Melekor

If you are getting a crash on the control preferences screen using 1.8.1 PB2, get this file and put it in your plugins folder: http://www.projectmagma.net/projects/myth2_beta/1.8.1/beta2/interface-pb2.zip The installers contain an incorrect version of this file. The windows installer has been update...

Melekor

Giant Killer General wrote:Melekor ~I can now only resort to putting words in my ideological opponent's mouths

People can read and decide for themselves what any of us meant.

GKG ~ I have no sense of humor

Feel free to do a top10 or 20 for me, krok and dac. Would be interesting and a good way to end the thread.

Melekor

GKG and switch ~ debate thread top 20 greatest hits 1. The elite in the US is conservative, and conservatives always lose in the long term. 2. Culture wars are a manichean battle between "true" and "false" ideas, with true ideas always winning in the end. 3. There is no such thing as a black and whi...

Melekor

biological basis for race: https://web.stanford.edu/group/rosenberglab/papers/popstruct.pdf They don't use the word race, but instead "genetic clusters" which is the corresponding biological concept. Using a clustering algorithm, if they cluster the genetic data into 5 clusters, the resulting cluste...

Melekor

Junk science not even worth reading. Melekor ~only the science I like counts. The science I don't like is junk. In any case, plenty of people disagree with your perspective. Good luck convincing anyone to your side. I guess if the science was so clear, cut, and dry on your side then it should be pr...

Melekor

This is completely irrelevant, as nobody is claiming that there is not causation between IQ and close family members. This data establishes that variation in intelligence between individuals is primarily explained by genetics. I thought you were doubting this, but if you're on board that's good. Th...

Melekor

I just looked up some of the science on race and IQ, and it largely appears to be INCONCLUSIVE. For every study you have to support your theory that it is genetics causing it, another study debunks it you are just conceding that there are no studies to support your viewpoint, so why would you conti...

Melekor

its true that Ashkenazi Jews statistically have the highest iq in the world, but not true that east asians do. they do well in terms of schooling (knowledge), because culturally they are forced to study ~23 hours a day, but iq and knowledge 2 completely different things. iq is innate intelligence. ...

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there is a huge difference between seeing a correlation, and implying that [genetics] actually caused it [...] this is the difference between just being "statistically accurate" and being a racist / supremicist. Beliefs about causation vs correlation have no bearing on being racist / supremecist. Y...

Melekor

GKG ~ If you understand being male as actually CAUSING men to be taller and stronger than women on average then you are a SEXIST BIGGOT / MALE SUPREMACIST. Correlation does not imply causation, and everyone who isn't a SHITLORD understands this nuance. Switch ~ Education and wealth causes IQ, not th...

Melekor

I cant believe I'm getting dragged back into this thread again after several failed attempts to extracate myself.. guess I have a real weakness for needing to set the record straight, even if I'm being baited :| look GKG, if you need a label I guess you could call me a nationalist. Mainly I am just ...

Melekor

Melekor has melted down to the point where he is no longer even capable of articulating an argument.

NAZI! NAZI! RACIST!! BIGOT!

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CY2fEPSh9Y8[/youtube]

Melekor

The arguments presented clearly demonstrate that you are factually in error when you stated that immigration causes wage depression for low skilled native workers. So your papers proved that supply and demand doesn't exist? How interesting :D What most amuses me about this thread is how you persit ...

Melekor

switch, I never denied that immigration could grow the economy. I have no idea what you are trying to prove by posting all those paper abstracts.

Melekor

(LOLOL) (wow) (groan) All I hear here is someone who does not have the capacity of language to articulate a rational response to argue against the information that contradicts their own worldview. I think you missed the part where everything about the benefits they were defining were completely cir...

Melekor

Melekor, the paper that you cited that I thoroughly analyzed- and you subsequently totally ignored, exactly like you did my discussion of your ahistorical interpretation of the naturalization act- stated (based on the "cold hard numbers") that ethnic diversity directly correlates to an increase in ...

Melekor

So given the myriad different ways we can stereotype people and judge them, why would you only look at race? It seems like an odd obsession with just one factor, when there are tons of factors that influence a person's behavior, culture, etc. other than just race. I'm talking about ethnocentric beh...

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I'm curious if you read any of that stuff before posting it or what. Are you just spamming me with a bunch of TLDR stuff? I don't want to be accused of being in an ideological hole, but I don't have time to read all your links (and the first one really sucked, sorry). What I did in my posts was to g...

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But if you ever want to come out of your ideological hole, then look at at any of these: http://www.diversityweb.org/digest/w97/ ... earch.html http://www.scientificamerican.com/artic ... s-smarter/ https://tcf.org/content/report/how-raci ... -students/ http://web.stanford.edu/~hakuta/www/pol ... a...

Melekor

Okay so, like I said before. One article (that is hardly a clear conclusion in agreement with your perspective) still does not account for the many more other published studies that are clearly against your perspective. so what makes you think to cherry pick one study that you then feel the need to...

Melekor

Yea, as switch suggests, I don't think this paper that you are citing is concluding what you think it is. Here is the last paragraph in the conclusion at the end of the paper that kind of sums it up See my reply to him. That paragraph and the entire last section is just a bunch of feel good rhetori...

Melekor

Lol, did you even READ the article? it overwhelmingly argues in favour of diversity (and immigration) both medium and long term, with the short term impacts being offset by the benefits. Yes, more closely than you did. You need to take care to separate the empirical findings from the rhetoric. The ...

Melekor

switch, holy cow dude! you come across as absolutely frothing at the mouth. I have precisely zero intention of engaging you and your ad hominem bullshit. I need to find out if this forum has a block function. This is positively hilarious coming from the guy who advocates anti-political correctness....

Melekor

figures you guys would try to pull me back in :P switch, holy cow dude! you come across as absolutely frothing at the mouth. I have precisely zero intention of engaging you and your ad hominem bullshit. I need to find out if this forum has a block function. GKG you are much more reasonable. I enjoy ...

Melekor

Last question - you mentioned earlier that true conservatism is about conservation. So does that mean you believe in conserving the environment as well and desire policies that fight against the effects of climate change? oh I did want to at least answer this one quickly, yes I do believe in that. ...

Melekor

I started writing a reply but realized it will be too time consuming to complete since our disagreement is so broad and we're getting to the point where I would need to start digging up sources and statistics, writing multipage explanations, and I forsee future posts getting even longer and longer. ...

Melekor

These are not real answers and just completely dodge the question because of course you couldn't possibly have a real answer for it. This is where your argument falls apart. If they have a leftist agenda, then what made them leftist to begin with? What is their motive? What is the motivation for an...

Melekor

But this is where you should then define your use of the term "ruling elite", and then give some examples of who they are I sort of thought this would be obvious.. Examples of non-business elites would be politicians, journalists, celebrities, professors, pundits. People who control information and...

Melekor

GKG we are still talking past eachother on the core point of the argument, which was about the accuracy/inaccuracy of label on the elites that you so vociferously objected to. I don't want to accuse you of strawmanning again because you seem to have put in a lot of effort in the recent posts which I...

Melekor

anti-semite? I'm half jewish you dunce. fuck you.

maybe you're the anti-semite if you think all marxists are jews

you want definitions try wikipedia, I'm not going to write a book for you.

YOU have no arguments. You are all about ad hominem, vapid psychoanalysis and meta critiqing my posts.

Melekor

You just listed a bunch of examples of ideological overlap between corporatists and economic conservatives. You didn't prove that the ruling elites lean towards that side. In fact, several of the things you listed are actually examples of conservatives not setting policy. -corporations want lower co...

Melekor

Melekor ~ I un-ironically understand the entire world as a conservative - marxist dichotomy I think the emphasis on comparing present day to marxism is a bit overskewed, but there is no denying that we are well on our way to a socialist country. ha. it just sounds like that because I had to constan...

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everytime I think I am making sense of what you are trying to say, your only response is "that is not what I meant, you're using a strawman" before then attempting to say something partially different and partially the same again. Then I think I make sense of it again, and get the same response. Th...

Melekor

lmao, this thread. never thought I'd see myself teamed up with kirk

for the record I'm far from an MRA. MRAs are basically a bunch of male 2nd wave feminists whining about equality

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switch wrote:Melkor ~ the Jewish globalist new world order cultural Marxist illuminati who control the Frankfurt school are trying to eradicate the white race! Only TRUMP can squash the feminazi new male cuckolds and save the white women from BBC mulatto babies!

Switch ~ Stay bluepilled my friend.

Melekor

GKG you're being incredibly obtuse, in every post I've tried to clarify to you that you're arguing a strawman all I ever said was the ruling elites agenda is corporatist and marxist that's it. it's not a deep theory. it's not hard to understand. have you ever seen a venn diagram before? the part in ...

Melekor

Just to be clear, it is your position that women should not have working careers just like men do, correct? You believe in traditional gender roles where women only raise their families? Of course what about women that don't want to have families? Or women that want to have a career? Talk about hug...

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