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Bowmen Grounds Solo

Posted: 24 Apr 2013, 18:20
by SamTheButcher
Here is Bowmen Ground (Solo). I have it as an individual Plug. When it totally finished after I get some feed back I'll include it with the Bowmen Grounds 1v1 Plug.

Info:

Player vs comp. Timid-Normal 6v6. Heroic 6v8. Legendary 6v10. This is a great Plug for improving your Bowmen skills, dodging arrows, working on different control and attack techniques etc. There is a lot of randomization so fights will always be different. Some will be easier than others. So just because you won or lost at a certain difficulty doesnt mean it will be the same results next game.
A few exercises you can do with this are:
1) VS as duel on any of the difficulty levels.
2) Dont fire back and just dodge arrows to see how long you can survive.
3) You can vs with any amount of your Bowmen. Just leave Bowmen you dont want to use near the back of the ring. Good for trying 2vs6 etc
4) 1v1 or 1v2 etc. Once you kill some of the enemy Bowmen leave some of yours back and try 1v1s or 1v2s ect.

I am wanting to improve it so please give me plenty of feedback on it. Good and Bad. What you think, how hard to beat it is and flaws or bugs etc. Post some of your films here. Wins and loses.

If you work on the exercise I listed and put a good amount of time into them your Bowmen skills WILL get better. I have sort of hesitated to release this because I know if people use it they will get better. Which from a competition aspect is bad for me since I can train with it. It is better though for the overall community and competition that anyone that wants can use it.

Get it here:http://thebutchersmaps.weebly.com/ I'll put the final version up at the Tain.

Let me know what you think.

Re: Bowmen Grounds Solo

Posted: 25 Apr 2013, 00:13
by Zak

Re: Bowmen Grounds Solo

Posted: 26 Apr 2013, 01:17
by Vantobia
Thanks Butcher, mate I downloaded it and fired it up to have a go, but it would not come up in the map choices once I chose the plugin from the list. The 1v1 version works, but the solo version (Vs Cpu) does not ?

When I choose it from the plugin list no extra options come up in the map list - and then when I go back into plugins, it is no longer in the selected list. I think this also happens with other plugins I have tried in the past that are broken.

I have no upgraded to the 1.8 beta yet though, could that be causing some issues ? Anyways ill try that soon and see if it makes a difference. Let me know if you have any ideas.

Re: Bowmen Grounds Solo

Posted: 26 Apr 2013, 12:42
by SamTheButcher
Vantobia wrote:Thanks Butcher, mate I downloaded it and fired it up to have a go, but it would not come up in the map choices once I chose the plugin from the list. The 1v1 version works, but the solo version (Vs Cpu) does not ?

When I choose it from the plugin list no extra options come up in the map list - and then when I go back into plugins, it is no longer in the selected list. I think this also happens with other plugins I have tried in the past that are broken.

I have no upgraded to the 1.8 beta yet though, could that be causing some issues ? Anyways ill try that soon and see if it makes a difference. Let me know if you have any ideas.
I'm not sure why its not working for you. Did you hold shift when you selected a new game or single player game? You may have to do that the first time.

Anyone else try it? Have any problems?

Re: Bowmen Grounds Solo

Posted: 26 Apr 2013, 17:12
by Dantski
Not touched the 1.8 beta and I have no issues loading it.

Nice plugin Sam, the AI is a lot more challenging than I had anticipated and its certainly possible to lose on legendary.

I'd like the option of the player having 4 or 8 archers instead (mainly the 4 since thats the standard # you get in tourney games) and maybe throw in souls vs souls and even Bre vs Bre as well.

Re: Bowmen Grounds Solo

Posted: 26 Apr 2013, 19:01
by SamTheButcher
Dantski wrote:Not touched the 1.8 beta and I have no issues loading it.

Nice plugin Sam, the AI is a lot more challenging than I had anticipated and its certainly possible to lose on legendary.

I'd like the option of the player having 4 or 8 archers instead (mainly the 4 since thats the standard # you get in tourney games) and maybe throw in souls vs souls and even Bre vs Bre as well.
Thanks Dantski for the feed back. I could do one with souls and bre. As far as using 4 arcs you can do that now by just leaving 2 arcs back near the edge of the ring. So you could do 4vs6 or whatever. Can you post a few films here? Wins and loses but especially films of you winning. So I can figure out what to do to make it more challenging.

Re: Bowmen Grounds Solo

Posted: 26 Apr 2013, 19:20
by c⁄J⁄Iılk c⁄J⁄Iån ◊§t◊
So... where is the arcade version with fire, pus, repel field, multi, lightning, etc arrows to pick up?

Hmm I feel like dorfballin all of a sudden.

Re: Bowmen Grounds Solo

Posted: 26 Apr 2013, 19:28
by Dantski
Did 3 quick games, 2 are on legendary 3rd is on normal for the 6v6.

Re: Bowmen Grounds Solo

Posted: 26 Apr 2013, 19:44
by Dantski
Oh and I tried using just 4 on legendary, AI clearly split into 2 groups of 5 and I could just stay on one side and mostly fight 4v5 twice.

Re: Bowmen Grounds Solo

Posted: 26 Apr 2013, 20:19
by Dantski
One last film, thought I'd try it using just 1 archer.

Re: Bowmen Grounds Solo

Posted: 26 Apr 2013, 23:15
by SamTheButcher
Thanks Dantski. Thats a big help. I think when I play I may be a little subconsciously biased maybe since I am looking for certain outcomes I miss some stuff. Like being able to go to one of the far sides to avoid fighting them all at once. For now until I make a new version for practice people can just stay in the middle of the ring. Its more about the practice than winning, but I do want to fix that. When you did fight staying in the middle about what % of the time do you win on the different difficulties? I feel like if I can get heroic to be about 50/50 vs an above average Player thats pretty good. Be great if I can get it better.

Re: Bowmen Grounds Solo

Posted: 26 Apr 2013, 23:53
by Dantski
Well I've played about 8 games total.

2 on normal
5-6 on legendary (Used 4 archers only and a single archer once)

I lost 1 legendary game (first one I played).

Below legendary I'll win 100% of the time, even on legendary I'll win 90% or more.

Keep in mind archering is really my thing in myth and it whats I generally do best, having others give their feedback would be a good idea.

Re: Bowmen Grounds Solo

Posted: 27 Apr 2013, 01:27
by Vantobia
Once I installed 1.8 I got it to work. No idea why. But yes, have played a few times - I get close to winning on leg i.e get them down to 2 or 3 red men. Only played about half doz times now. Will play more and send you some films