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Drunken is an expert on American domestic affairs

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Sorry some of my featured co-casters aren't up to snuff in your opinion, GKG, but I actually kind of like a diversity of perspectives! Disagreement makes it all the more interesting! Would have been super interesting to showcase different opinions. PunkUser is a great co-caster, too. He has some goo...

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EW, GKG, whoever else is interested, post times you're available to cast here so we ca schedule this shiz. The finals cast ought to be appropriately epic!

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Bulworth: Rich people’ve stayed on top, dividing white people from colored people. But white people’ve got more in Common with colored people than rich people. We’re just gonna have to eliminate ‘em. Connie: Eliminate? Bulworth: Eliminate. Connie: Who? Rich people? Bulworth: White people. Bulworth:...

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I'd like to accommodate as many interested parties as possible for the finals cast. We have a set time EW?

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Sorry guys, haven't really been able to keep up with demand. I did, however, upload a whole match the other day. WTC vs TMNS featuring Adrenaline Part 1 [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cD_UshFpg9Y[/youtube] Part 2 [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HnIxOV1ww4g[/youtube] As well as game ...

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Just a reminder, we're going to be casting the finals this Friday at 7pm EST. Congrats to the turtles! And to Myrk for defying his eponymous curse. Good job!

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I would enjoy reading more like that.

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Enjoyed your Elysium review, Switch. Have you thought about putting these on a blog?

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From the DE3:

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzRamusFEt0[/youtube]

Sam and Pallidice in the house.

I have a good amount of DE4 content to process and maybe a little bit to cast yet so look for that in the next days.

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Sure. Time moved to Wednesday, at 6:30pm EST.

See http://forum.gateofstorms.net/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=726 for instructions on installing mumble.

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Wanna shoot for Tuesday at 6:30 EST in the PM?

Also, drunk, this isn't the BBF match. We can still do yours.

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These games, wwo?

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ObrELohFZ8g[/youtube]

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"There is no reason why, in a society which has reached the general level of wealth ours has, the first kind of security should not be guaranteed to all without endangering general freedom; that is: some minimum of food, shelter and clothing, sufficient to preserve health. Nor is there any reas...

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Hello all, it's that time again as MWC begins to come to a close. As such I'd like to cover as much of the extant games as I can while providing fun content and drawing on the participation of the community. This week I'd like to cover the WTC/TMNS full match and would like to invite the community t...

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Holy shit Vigor. How many times can I repeat myself in this thread? Taxes are not "voluntary because you can avoid them." I've never even said anything remotely like that. You're literally blowing my mind. What I did say is that taxes are voluntary to the extent you can participate in dete...

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I was pressed for time while composing my previous post so I'll address your concerns a little more at length here, Vigor. "Seriously? You're linking me to an amazon book store?" Sure, I took the liberty of linking you to a bookseller in the off chance you would appreciate the extra conven...

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You are assuming that the only way to create capital is through exploiting natural resources, which maybe was true, say, during the industrial revolution, but certainly is not true today. Further, you seem oblivious to the fact that everyone would be a UBI recipient, and so can use that income howev...

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Yeah, but who's giving what to whom, hmm?

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Taxation is voluntary to the extent you can voluntarily participate in determining your local tax policy. If you don't want to pay taxes, you can start a business overseas and funnel money into developing sophisticated evasion techniques (like everyone else. Hi Apple). "taxing property is just ...

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There might be weekly kickball games starting up.

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It's obvious to me you haven't understood anything I've written.

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ew vs rawr
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ObrELohFZ8g

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I'll go ahead and post DE3 coverage here as it's completed.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FsagzUQpIT4[/youtube]

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdr-fyqjk2A[/youtube]

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Taxing isn't voluntary to begin with, an UBI based on voluntary contribution is just charity. I'm not going to go into some theoretical discussion on definitions, the NAP could be argued for as a natural right originating in God or it could simply be called "entitlement". I know you're ta...

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One way to fund a UBI is the way I described (essentially a real-estate tax). In my view a real-estate tax is more ethical than an income tax (for reasons already stated). The problem with taxes right now is not so much that people object to paying them but that people object to what they consider i...

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Implementing UBI would mean doing away with the welfare system. I can understand why you'd think they are similar, but a UBI would do away with means testing altogether and free up resources lost in bureaucracy. Like it or not we already support life that cannot support itself. What, do you think ba...

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I'm not forcing you into a position. If you're pro free market you're likely to invoke the NAP. If you don't endorse the non-aggression principle, then that's my mistake. If you do, then you think that forcing people to do anything is unethical. That includes forcing people to participate in an econ...

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I'm not convinced anyone "should" be producing anything, quite frankly. For those that want to, it won't matter either way. I think forcing people to produce (by threatening starvation, or worse) seems to contravene the non-aggression principle, which, I assume, is central to your ideology...

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The problem is that people aren't getting jobs doing mechanical labor. If they were, then you'd be correct. Here in the US at least the economy has shifted to non-sales selling: service jobs, education, and the medical industry. This kind of work isn't straightforward; it requires a modicum of cogni...

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That's great that you believe that, but where is the data? From the data I've gathered (see the Dan Pink video I linked in the other thread for a pretty concise breakdown) people produce superior work when the issue of money is taken off the table.

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What I'm suggesting has not to my knowledge ever been tried. Be glad to see examples if you have any kicking around, but I can tell you right now that you're probably conflating what I suggested with a position I do not hold. Also, you fail to address something I have already cited in response to St...

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Not sure what the point of your argument is because Sweden has very little to do with what I'm talking about.

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Yeah I'm not sure if you've grokked what I proposed. People being on the streets would not be a logical outcome of a UBI as I understand it. The UBI would be paid by a real estate tax, as opposed to other forms of taxation. I already talked about how the notion of property could be reformulated in o...

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That's essentially what the commons is. "Public" ownership is a misnomer. Unless of course you're saying something I don't understand, which is very possible.

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Why bother indeed.

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Right, so Civil order didn't play particularly well given the level of play today, but that's kind of a moot point. There's a lot of other reasons why someone might want to pick them. They were the first champions on this game, when it was at its most popular, and therefore set the bar that all othe...

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Might that have something to do with the seemingly arbitrary cut off point of 2004?

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The poll question is: Who is the best MWC champion? It's a subjective question, and as such I find it puzzling that you don't allow answers you disagree with.

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the answer is civil order http://www.macobserver.com/mwc99/dynamic/results/top/7/7T01/ first repeat team ever both finals beating opponents in sudden death, first effective use of 'name changing' to win a championship (2000) http://www.mythgaming.net/mwc2000/news/ played in a total of 25 mwc finals...

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I thought sam and wwo were on the same team?

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Thanks, interesting games are by far the best, even if they feature a mix of good and bad playing. Top tier play is great, but not very fun to watch if it's just one team completely destroying another.

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OKay guys, you know the drill: let me know the best games of DE round 4. I'll be looking to get caught up this week.

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OK thanks for the suggestions everyone. I'll be going through these after this weekend's games it looks like, so stay tuned on those. In other news, DE1/2 games are up.

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dac: It seems your comprehension problem is worse than I had originally thought. I was just being cute, but now I'm a little concerned for you. For one, that I framed my "belief system" as a tentative solution ("suggestion" was the word I used) seems lost on you completely. But h...

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That's the kind of response I'd expect from you dac. Your contribution has been noted. Here's the pertinent bit from the other thread (it's obvious you either didn't read it or have a comprehension problem): "Propertarians start from the premise that all land is up for grabs until claimed. I th...

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Right, from what I understand the middle class is not a natural outgrowth of free market capitalism. In its current form people are granted exclusive ownership rights over water sources and the food supply (indeed even over genes and DNA sequences, but that's for another thread) so the conditions ex...

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and par needs a new proctologist

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Yeah, I'm not "anti-private property" per se; like I said, I think land ownership can be simulated through contracts. That's a lot less disruptive to our present system than saying all private property should be abolished or confiscated by the state. The reason you don't understand it is b...

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Also, our entire system is based on first possession theory. Just because all land has been claimed by someone doesn't mean it's no longer relevant. We're just dealing with the logical fallout. Because land belongs to the commons (ergo no one owns it) taxes acquired through leasing property would be...

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